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This is an absolutely fascinating topic...
...Who knew that over 200,000 people still have cable!
...Who knew that over 200,000 people still have cable!

BILLIARDS DIGEST July 2015
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Numbers in for first 6 episodes...
According to Nielsen ratings....
Friday May 22
Episode 1: 199,297 viewers
Episode 2: 161,778 viewers
Friday May 29
Episode 3: 190,666 viewers
Episode 4: 146,643 viewers
Friday June 5
Episode 5: 306,341 viewers
Friday June 12
Episode 6: 218,705 viewers
Overall, six episodes generated an average viewership of 203,954 placing it fourth in TruTv line-up of reality shows....
Was wondering if , you set your cable box to remind me of when the show starts would help to drive the numbers?
BILLIARDS DIGEST July 2015
Page 30
Numbers in for first 6 episodes...
According to Nielsen ratings....
Friday May 22
Episode 1: 199,297 viewers
Episode 2: 161,778 viewers
Friday May 29
Episode 3: 190,666 viewers
Episode 4: 146,643 viewers
Friday June 5
Episode 5: 306,341 viewers
Friday June 12
Episode 6: 218,705 viewers
Overall, six episodes generated an average viewership of 203,954 placing it fourth in TruTv line-up of reality shows.
The article goes on to quote a source to say "Friday night's traditionally generate the weeks lowest numbers across all networks, especially during the summer months. That the Hustlers was able to generate 300,000 viewers on a Friday night was an incredible feat."
If network decides to go with second season, on a better night, and during winter months who knows where the numbers will go? Let's go season 2!!!!
Interesting. If I'm channel surfing and pass the show, I'll watch it simply because I like the sounds and sights of pool balls being hit into pockets. But there's nothing else that keeps me interested in the show, certainly not the characters or script.
That said, I'm an analytical and a numbers guy and several things gain my attention when looking at your numbers chart. The very first thing is between episodes #1 (199,297 viewers) and episode #4 (146,643 viewers), even with the small spike at episode #3 with 190,666 viewers, there appears to be a defined downward trend. Then we have a strong, maybe too strong, upward spike at episode #5 of 306,341 viewers...more than double the previous week and 50% higher than the two stronger weeks, followed by episode #6 with 218,705 viewers.
Granted, we're dealing with a very small and therefore indefinitive data base here, but we can still make several general observations and await future data. I would have to view the current and available data as more likely showing a decreasing viewership trend than an increasing one. Episode #5 appears to likely be either an aberration or possibly an error, but opinions aside, the only way to be sure is with further and accurate data.
While, I wouldn't consider myself a "fan" of the show, I certainly wish all involved with it the best of luck.
j
The moving ball theory has been debunked many times over the past 6 weeks with cast members, crew members, and rail birds watching the filming chiming in with the same explanation. The balls move because innings are edited out to fit matches into the time available. So you will miss a safety battle and see the runs that bookend said safety battle.
Here is the Emmy award winning producer quoted in last months billiards digest....
“This kind of reality show is a docuseries,” explained Piligian. “It evolves from week to week. It’s a betting show, with players trying to knock the person above them off the list.
“These games are real,” Piligian emphasized. “They’re playing for real money. You can watch the game unfold, and there is a real winner and a real loser.”
http://billiardsdigest.com/new_current_issue/june_15/bb_index.php
The Hustlers is a competition reality show. Big difference between that and Kardashians/Dog the Bounty Hunter, etc.
Read the posts by Frost and the youtube interview of Finnegan, they explain why the balls jump around on the show.
Basically, they have the players setup some shots again to re-shoot them, since they don't remember the exact lay-out, the balls jump around in position during the airing of the show after editing.
My worry about the show lasting for a while is that unless they expand into other areas and players, it will get boring just seeing someone say "Ok, I'm playing you now" 3 times an episode.
No reality tv show deserves a second season. Specially one that is completely scripted and setup. Ever notice during their table shots that between the player shots, balls randomly change position without the cue ball ever touching those balls? Stop supporting a show that is degrading to pool. "Hustlers", and not just the show, are why people avoid pool. It's also one of the reasons there is no pro pool. So much 'coolness' in the pool world of being a big gambler no one wants to be good anymore and this show is prime indication.
Please provide some evidence that this show featuring "scripted, set-up" hustles is why people avoid pool.
I ask because ALL of the non-players I've talked to that watched it have had an increased interest in playing some pool.
I've yet to find a non-player who was turned off by it.
Thanks,
Jeff Livingston
Please provide some evidence that this show featuring "scripted, set-up" hustles is why people avoid pool.
I ask because ALL of the non-players I've talked to that watched it have had an increased interest in playing some pool.
I've yet to find a non-player who was turned off by it.
Thanks,
Jeff Livingston
Glad your personal experience is good enough for you to believe that, mine isn't. Yes it may draw their attention to playing pool, but ask them if they've went to a poolhall from just watching the show. If that answer is that they haven't gone out playing pool, that's because they don't want to get hustled. Every single 'C' player I know has asked me if I've seen the show. I tell them I feel degraded as a pool player. Only way pool can get attention is by showcasing the slums of the sport. There are golfers out there who make a living playing golf for money just like these people on "The Hustlers". Yet those same golfers will never be known because an actual golfer just won $2million in a tournament vs their $20k gambling. Would this show even exist if pro pool players could make at least a million a year? Not a chance.
Would rather see exhibition matches with no safety play between pros than watch this shit show anyways.
No reality tv show deserves a second season. Specially one that is completely scripted and setup. Ever notice during their table shots that between the player shots, balls randomly change position without the cue ball ever touching those balls? Stop supporting a show that is degrading to pool. "Hustlers", and not just the show, are why people avoid pool. It's also one of the reasons there is no pro pool. So much 'coolness' in the pool world of being a big gambler no one wants to be good anymore and this show is prime indication.
what are the stats for the latter 50% of their episodes?
and who are the other 203,854 viewers?
Interesting. If I'm channel surfing and pass the show, I'll watch it simply because I like the sounds and sights of pool balls being hit into pockets. But there's nothing else that keeps me interested in the show, certainly not the characters or script.
That said, I'm an analytical and a numbers guy and several things gain my attention when looking at your numbers chart. The very first thing is between episodes #1 (199,297 viewers) and episode #4 (146,643 viewers), even with the small spike at episode #3 with 190,666 viewers, there appears to be a defined downward trend. Then we have a strong, maybe too strong, upward spike at episode #5 of 306,341 viewers...more than double the previous week and 50% higher than the two stronger weeks, followed by episode #6 with 218,705 viewers.
Granted, we're dealing with a very small and therefore indefinitive data base here, but we can still make several general observations and await future data. I would have to view the current and available data as more likely showing a decreasing viewership trend than an increasing one. Episode #5 appears to likely be either an aberration or possibly an error, but opinions aside, the only way to be sure is with further and accurate data.
While, I wouldn't consider myself a "fan" of the show, I certainly wish all involved with it the best of luck.
j
What stood out to me was even at the highest night it was way belowThe part that stood out was that the network recognized summer Friday night is the slowest ratings draw of the year, and The Hustlers pulled down a 300,000 viewer night. That is recognized as a "feat" by the network.
And above all, it bested Barmageddon in ratings which was on a more favorable night.
The part that stood out was that the network recognized summer Friday night is the slowest ratings draw of the year, and The Hustlers pulled down a 300,000 viewer night. That is recognized as a "feat" by the network.
And above all, it bested Barmageddon in ratings which was on a more favorable night.