My first progress video; feedback and advice is welcome

Sam,
As other have said, slow down the back-swing and keep the head still, otherwise the fundamentals are pretty good.

I'm guessing you're using a low-deflection cue. Even so, you're often bridging 18+ inches. I reckon you'd be better off with a mid-deflection cue at this stage and bridging around 12-15 inches much more often, to get better accuracy on the CB.

That said, your fundamentals are pretty good.

I like that you're bashing them. You can learn to play dribble shots later on. Some guys play for 40 years and can never bash a ball because all they do is dribble shots 98% of the time. The stroke shot tests alignment and helps you learn the harder shots.

A lot of positional issues but it shouldn't be your focus now. If you start messing with off center hitting a lot, it will slow the development of pure potting fundamentals.

14.1 isn't too bad a game to start on, but more as a drill, to give pocketing options. If you play the game seriously it requires a lot of soft shots with english here and there, so if you focused on scoring at it, you're practice could become less focused on good stroking and more about strategy and tweaking with english, nip draw shots and so on.

There should be no rush to get all skills at a high level at once. Get the fundamentals strong first, and you've made good progress on that in 3 months.

Get the rhythm of the stroke smoother, get the hit on the vertical axis more accurate, get the head steadier, and don't worry too much about how many you pot in a row. Get more satisfaction that you executed the shots with ease.

When you feel you're hitting a bit more accurately, but still firm, with more ease, and you are sure your head is more still, then your fundamentals are at the stage to start on some positional drills to control the CB better.

Later, comes game and scoring strategy. If one focus on this aspect too early, their fundamentals often take a step backwards.

I'm sure several here can provide positional drills to work on when your fundamentals tune in.

So, the main points again:

Easy back swing.
Steady body throughout.
Keep head still.
Shorten Bridge.
Hit center axis CB more accurately.

Generally, try to get silky smooth with power and accuracy, on almost purely center axis CB potting. Don't spend more than 5% of your time on shots with english until you have a stroke so smooth, strong and accurate that people may wonder if you're a pro.

Anyone who sees your jabby fast feathering and head up and down movement and regular super long bridge can tell in 30 seconds that you're not. These are the things to work on.

But, you've a great eye and hit pretty straight.. the sky is the limit if you improve step by step.

Colin
 
Props to the OP for posting a video of his shooting putting it out there for critique. Keep it up Sam. I went from an APA 2 to an APA 6 in a year period. Stay focused, get a good training schedule (and sparring partner if you can find out that plays better than you), and keep at it!
 
This is most definetely the case
If it's a fraud, it's a very clever one.

The choice of shot and execution thereof is very typical of a less experienced player.

His stroke may be better than many who have played for years, but that can be a sign of general coordination, ability to pay attention to detail and a naturally good eye for seeing an angle. I've seen these before with some beginning players.

His gift seems to be a good eye and ability to stroke pretty well quickly, hence his enthusiasm to pursue higher goals.

It probably took me 4-5 years to get where he is, though I started at 7yo and never thought too much about technique at the time, just winning games and making shots.

Colin
 
Thanks to all of you for the very good advice! I will make sure to keep all of this in mind for future practice!

I watched the video also and wow did I make mistakes, I seem to not see those when actually playing the shots. I think I will tape myself more often, I think it will help a lot


Hopefully I'm not missing anything :

- Gotta stop using draw so much, not enough center / follow shots, especially follow
- Hitting too hard
- Gotta stop that elbow from dropping
- Too much head movement
- Inconsistent pre-shot routine
- Bridge too lengthy
- Backstroke way too fast
- Poor shot selection (that's kinda hard to fix by myself, I guess a few lessons with Sylvain could help with that)
- Poor cue ball placement (aware of that one, gonna need to practice a few drills to straighten that out)
- Could use from trying a few left-handed shots
- Gotta be more relaxed, I seem to be jumping around the table
- Gotta work on my trolling skills, iusedtoberich and BeiberLvr are on to me

Also, if any of you watched the video to the end, you can see Sylvain making a few surprise appearances near the end to help me on shot selection!
 
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Very good for no longer than you have been playing , try not to fall in love with drawing your cueball.

Are you doing the draw shots intentionally?

If you are then it's impressive that you can draw the cue ball easily, being that you have only played for 3 months. Draw is one of the shots that most of the beginner pool players struggle with, you seem to have no issues with it which is a testament to your skill of smooth follow through.

Everyone improves at a different speed till they hit their potential or plateau. But, you don't need to worry about that right now so keep doing what you love and good luck.
 
You seemed a little wired up in the video. Like a kid with a new toy and running around the house with it. Have you tried slowing everything down a bit? Are you comfortable at a full sprint around the table? It's not a bad thing if that's what you are comfortable with, but right now just beginning I would work into that full sprint.
 
You seemed a little wired up in the video. Like a kid with a new toy and running around the house with it. Have you tried slowing everything down a bit? Are you comfortable at a full sprint around the table? It's not a bad thing if that's what you are comfortable with, but right now just beginning I would work into that full sprint.

What can I say, I'm always excited to play pool :D

I will definitely try to slow down the mechanics, the jumping around the table is just general me I think.
 
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....iusedtoberich and BeiberLvr are on to me

Pretty obvious. A guy who has been playing for more than a year and thinks he is good.

And keeps posting and creating threads like he wants to learn from others. But he actually won't hear anyone because he thinks he is knowledgable enough to become a pro in 3 years or something.

Again, pretty obvious.......
 
You have a great stroke for such little time playing... I think a better exhibition of your skill would be a rotation game. Would like to see your advanced/multirail/tough shot with postion play.
 
You have a great stroke for such little time playing... I think a better exhibition of your skill would be a rotation game. Would like to see your advanced/multirail/tough shot with postion play.

My initial idea for the videos was playing 10/15/20 racks of 9-ball. Guess I could try that next month!
 
I agree; feels like he's fishing a little bit. No need to push so hard for feedback. Just play 10,000 hours and you'll be ready. And stop trying to murder the ball everytime. Watch SVB...how often is he crushing them to get shape?
 
Just play 10,000 hours and you'll be ready.

I don't agree with that part. The advice I received in this thread will be very helpful to me and it will be much easier to improve if more knowledgeable players help me spot my flaws and tell me how to work on them.

I -could- get better just playing by myself and not looking for feedback/advice/help, but my guess is that I would improve much more slowly.
 
Fair enough...the 10,000 hours thing is a well known philosophy for mastering anything. In the absence of that: walk around the table, slow down, shorten your bridge, and remember the table is not 20 feet long. Imagine where you want the cue ball to end up and you'll be amazed how your muscles respond.
 
You have a great stroke for such little time playing... I think a better exhibition of your skill would be a rotation game. Would like to see your advanced/multirail/tough shot with postion play.
If you watched it right through, you'd see that Sam isn't ready for the 3 ball ghost, yet alone playing full frames of rotation.

The important issues are his aiming and stroking fundamentals. I don't even think he should be looking so much for choice of shot right now, but he seems determined to do so.

Up the track, 4-5 ball ghost will be a part of his development, with the requisite use for CB control.

I'd have the 6-ball ghost at 11-1 right now for him. Not a criticism, but it takes time to string various skills and knowledge together. If he can beat the 4 ball ghost race to 21 in his first year, he's doing good I reckon.

Colin
 
If you watched it right through, you'd see that Sam isn't ready for the 3 ball ghost, yet alone playing full frames of rotation.



The important issues are his aiming and stroking fundamentals. I don't even think he should be looking so much for choice of shot right now, but he seems determined to do so.



Up the track, 4-5 ball ghost will be a part of his development, with the requisite use for CB control.



I'd have the 6-ball ghost at 11-1 right now for him. Not a criticism, but it takes time to string various skills and knowledge together. If he can beat the 4 ball ghost race to 21 in his first year, he's doing good I reckon.



Colin


I think I could beat the 4 ball ghost right now! I might be very wrong though. Will attempt that tonight. Do I take ball in hand after breaking?

Also, I’m guessing that I spot pocketed balls on the break? Where do I put the 2nd ball if I pocket 2 on the break?
 
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Is it possible to beat the 4 ball ghost after playing for only 3 1/2 months? Hmmm...curiouser and curiouser.
 
If you watched it right through, you'd see that Sam isn't ready for the 3 ball ghost, yet alone playing full frames of rotation.
You didnt have to watch it all the way through to see that.

I want to see him playing 9ball to see what he attempts for position. You would be able to get a good idea if he is on the right track or just really far off.

Not to mention, the kid wants to go pro, he should play something thats more mainstream for pros. Way more 9 and 10 ball tournaments out there then 14.1. Sure there are a small spattering of them but most of the majors are 9ball and 10ball.
 
You didnt have to watch it all the way through to see that.

I want to see him playing 9ball to see what he attempts for position. You would be able to get a good idea if he is on the right track or just really far off.

Not to mention, the kid wants to go pro, he should play something thats more mainstream for pros. Way more 9 and 10 ball tournaments out there then 14.1. Sure there are a small spattering of them but most of the majors are 9ball and 10ball.

I will make a 4-ball video today or tomorrow! At the beginning of october I will make a 9-ball progress video instead. That should let you see what you are asking for! I think I am better (albeit still bad) at 9-ball, it is the game I usually play.
 
I will make a 4-ball video today or tomorrow! At the beginning of october I will make a 9-ball progress video instead. That should let you see what you are asking for! I think I am better (albeit still bad) at 9-ball, it is the game I usually play.

Cool!

The problem I have with straight pool is that we dont have a surefire way of knowing if you got on the ball you wanted to get on and what ball you are playing after that. Once everythnig is open up its really easy to cover mistakes and just shoot another ball rather then the one you were playing position for.

Evaluating skill from a 9ball perspective I know what ball you are shooting and what ball you are trying to get on and what side of that ball you need to be on to get to the ball after that.

Not that I'm anyone to evaluate anybody's skill level. I'm not.

Apparently Colin is though...

Also, thanks for following through and posting the video. I know I gave you shit in previous threads (and I still think the idea of going pro in sch a short time is impossible and a bad idea) but this is great. As long as you keep doing these we will actually be able to see someone learning the game first hand and documented over a long period of time. That would be amazing.
 
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