Distance of V to Fixed CCB

A general question should be rather easy to answer.

Generally speaking, do variances of pivots yield difference?

Colin says they do in relationship to BHE.
But this is a CTE thread so pivot questions should be specific to the system.
 
Do variance in the CTE pivot yield differences?

Why don't you just be specific with your questions.

I don't play the trapping game.

All pivots are covered in Stan's instructions.

I never specifically worry about bridge lengths when playing with CTE.
 
Why don't you just be specific with your questions.

I don't play the trapping game.

All pivots are covered in Stan's instructions.

I never specifically worry about bridge lengths when playing with CTE.

Then it would seem that you are not really using the 'system' as defined. Is that correct?
 
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No there is a manual pivot still. The bridge distance varies due to distance between CB and OB. This is true for all pivot aiming systems. There is a chart on the dvd you can memorize. The visual sweeps account for this difference. As to your next questions English, through practice we can very accurately estimate a 1/2 tip visual sweep.

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Thanks ATC.

I thought so.
 
That's not on topic & I do not understand what you mean...

but I think I have made my points.

I was just being polite and saying nighty night.

Need my beauty sleep.

Food for thought. When discussing and asking questions concerning CTE it's ok to not be well versed in it.
But when making specific claims for or against it you should be well versed in it.
 
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I was just being polite and saying nighty night.

Need my beauty sleep.

Food for thought. When discussing and asking questions concerning CTE it's ok to not be well versed in it.
But when making specific claims for or against it you should be well versed in it.

That's almost like the Mafia saying that only the Mafia can make claims for or against the Mafia.

That's part of the problem. That's not how such matters work.

There is no need to know all of the specific inner workings of the Mafia for ANYONE to make a judgement on the morals of the Mafia....

Just as one does not even have to know what a pool table is in order to make the proper judgement as to the subjectivity of CTE.
 
Not correct. I am using the system as defined by Stan.

Do you have any idea how it is defined by Stan?

Well it seems that since ATC is concerned with different bridge lengths & you are not...

that the two of you could not be using the same 'system'.

Is there more than one 'system' or method?
 
Variances in ALL types of pivots yield differences.

For anyone to infer otherwise is nonsense & one that does such is nonsensical.

Colin has studied more types of pivots than just pivots that relate to BHE.

Rick, there are videos on you tube about this exact subject. Instead of stating things as fact, maybe you should first learn about the subject so you don't look like the fool. What you stated is blatantly false.

You also have stated many times that your only concern with CTE is with the word objective. Yet, here you are again, finding something else you think you can pick apart about the system. You aren't fooling anyone here.

You say you want to be civil, yet you start out by calling others names if they don't agree with you.
 
Differences yield differences.

A variance is a difference.

Variances of pivots yield differences.

That is NOT blatantly false but instead true.

The variances may be considered errors or may be considered as subjective interpretations based on different circumstances.
 
English you're really taking this for a stretch here. In order to keep the 1/2 tip manual pivot for all shots, bridge length varies based on distance between CB and OB. the 1/2 tip being the coefficient while the other 2 variables can be found by knowing one or the other. This has already been worked out and provided via the dvd by Stan.
The visual sweeps dont require different bridge lengths because we are visually locating the CCB and sweeping to it. It is always 1/2 tip either left or right of the CTE Line.

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English you're really taking this for a stretch here. In order to keep the 1/2 tip manual pivot for all shots, bridge length varies based on distance between CB and OB. the 1/2 tip being the coefficient while the other 2 variables can be found by knowing one or the other. This has already been worked out and provided via the dvd by Stan.
The visual sweeps dont require different bridge lengths because we are visually locating the CCB and sweeping to it. It is always 1/2 tip either left or right of the CTE Line.

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Thanks ATC.

You're more new to the 'discussions' than I am.

You've already courageously said that it's NOT 'an objective aiming system'

The point is if it is not objective but instead subjective, then the pivots too could very well be subjective in how they are being applied.

If there is nothing objective that takes one to the different physical positions using the same visual & one is making a sweep instead of a manual pivot...

Then how does one KNOW that they are making a 'sweep' that is truly equal to the 1/2 tip pivot & NOT a variance thereof?

Once you get the CTE & whatever else line 'combined' that is a fixed line & we all know that the 5 different parallel shots with the same distance between the balls can NOT all be made from the same line...

then one has to either move onto a different line (& there is nothing that is objective that dictates that) OR...one has to VARY the 'pivot' or the sweep.

Variances of pivot yields differences.

Best 2 Ya,
Rick
 
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That's almost like the Mafia saying that only the Mafia can make claims for or against the Mafia.

That's part of the problem. That's not how such matters work.

There is no need to know all of the specific inner workings of the Mafia for ANYONE to make a judgement on the morals of the Mafia....

Just as one does not even have to know what a pool table is in order to make the proper judgement as to the subjectivity of CTE.

I can bake an Apple pie but not as good as the local bakery can. Think i'll go with the experienced and knowledgeable one.
 
Well it seems that since ATC is concerned with different bridge lengths & you are not...

that the two of you could not be using the same 'system'.

Is there more than one 'system' or method?

Don't know what ATC knows or where he learned. Stan teaches one and judging from other students replies he only teaches one way.
 
Differences yield differences.

A variance is a difference.

Variances of pivots yield differences.

That is NOT blatantly false but instead true.

The variances may be considered errors or may be considered as subjective interpretations based on different circumstances.

What you are trying to infer is blatantly false.
 
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