Scotch Doubles with no communication between players

"During your opponent’s inning, you may quietly discuss anything you wish with your partner. All discussion and communication must stop immediately when your opponent’s inning ends."

So you can talk but just not when its your teams turn.

I don't care for the rule since one of the most enjoyabe parts of scotch doubles is arguing with your partner about the next shot.

Lesh
 
Lesh said:
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I don't care for the rule since one of the most enjoyabe parts of scotch doubles is arguing with your partner about the next shot.

Lesh
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I agree totally.

As long as the game is not slowed down, why would it matter to the team's opponents?

Also, fans like to hear some strategy options, I'd think, and would enjoy the match more if they could hear those.

Also, if a team has one good player, the lesser player can learn a lot with this process of discussion.

As long as it doesn't slow down the game. I don't wanna have to start a thread on, "Doubles play is so slow...."


Jeff Livingston
 
When I play doubles with someone I usually know how they play already and we don't have to say a word to one another. It's worked out pretty well for me.

If it's a blind draw then that's a totally different story.
 
If this event isn't handicapped then it doesn;t sound like that rule is an issue. If it was APA and 10 handicap I would not play with that rule.
 
yes, if you are at a certain skill level you can play with little communication, this can be seen during the world cup of pool where my problem was america always in each others ear. But, most of these teams will be people who just happen to know each other and are cool enough to take a dive in the pool strapped to another persons arm.
Not being able to tell your "teammate" where you'd like to be or have them tell you just feels like playing blind, it's like discussing you NFL play only during time outs or when the other team has the ball.
I'm just not sold and i really want to play in this cause i have a partner who I enjoy playing with and was just looking for a fun event for us to jive in but not with a rule that may potentially take the fun out of it at key points.
Granted rules work both ways also, but i'm sure you would like playing a player who's rule say that you don't have to touch a rail after contact when you've spent you whole life playing that way.
 
7forlife said:
yes, if you are at a certain skill level you can play with little communication, this can be seen during the world cup of pool where my problem was america always in each others ear. But, most of these teams will be people who just happen to know each other and are cool enough to take a dive in the pool strapped to another persons arm.
Not being able to tell your "teammate" where you'd like to be or have them tell you just feels like playing blind, it's like discussing you NFL play only during time outs or when the other team has the ball.
I'm just not sold and i really want to play in this cause i have a partner who I enjoy playing with and was just looking for a fun event for us to jive in but not with a rule that may potentially take the fun out of it at key points.
Granted rules work both ways also, but i'm sure you would like playing a player who's rule say that you don't have to touch a rail after contact when you've spent you whole life playing that way.
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The general idea of scotch doubles is teamwork. In most sanctioned leagues, the game is played male/female. Is it really fun when your opponent sticks themselves and has no shot and no way to tell the player at the table what to do? If they had practiced together for a while, the odds are they might know what their team mate wants them to do. As the new BCAPL rule now makes team practice unnecessary, IMHO they ruined the game. Don't like your team mates shot choice, just yell out what you want your team mate to do. Like most everything else today, just keep cheapening the game till it becomes unrecognizable.

Lyn
 
chefjeff said:
I agree totally.

As long as the game is not slowed down, why would it matter to the team's opponents?

Also, fans like to hear some strategy options, I'd think, and would enjoy the match more if they could hear those.

Also, if a team has one good player, the lesser player can learn a lot with this process of discussion.

As long as it doesn't slow down the game. I don't wanna have to start a thread on, "Doubles play is so slow...."


Jeff Livingston
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That is a ridiculous rule to me. What are they going to outlaw next, thinking during your inning in a singles tournament? As long as 2 players keep the game going smoothly without delay table talk should not be limited during your inning.
 
I asked Tony about it, I'm not a fan of this rule either. Not being able to communicate with your partner when you're at the table came from people taking forever with matches. FWIW, this comes straight from the powers that be at CSI/BCAPL.
 
Keith Jawahir said:
I asked Tony about it, I'm not a fan of this rule either. Not being able to communicate with your partner when you're at the table came from people taking forever with matches. FWIW, this comes straight from the powers that be at CSI/BCAPL.
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The BCAPL just reversed that rule for this year's Nationals and will allow scotch doubles teammates to communicate while at the table. However the non-shooting player must be seated.

It will be interesting to see if this new rule will slow down play considerably. I wouldn't think so for the Gold and Platinum divisions, but with almost 1/3 of the teams in the Silver division having at least one player with a sub-400 Fargo rating, I would expect a lot of communication going on between those team members.
 
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