Could not agree more !
And Heck if it's that Easy Post all runs above 200 !
As it has been said (Straight Pool is easy,Easy to Play Bad)
At the highest level of play, what game is the easiest?
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Could not agree more !
And Heck if it's that Easy Post all runs above 200 !
As it has been said (Straight Pool is easy,Easy to Play Bad)
I think this is silly. If someone says they think 8-ball is the easier, are you going to ask them to post their 10-packs? That is ridiculous and nonsense.
The decisions/choices you have in 8b is exactly why 8b is easier. Deciding what to take in 8b is not rocket science. It forgives poor position play with a choice of object balls.
The "map" that 9b forces you to take is what makes rotation games more difficult.
The statistics have already proven that breaking and running in 8b is much easier at the pro level; http://billiards.colostate.edu/threads/break.html#statistics
As far as the easiest games to run out a rack in?
IMHO easiest to hardest: 14.1, 8b, 9b, 10b, banks, 1 hole.
Now easiest to win the match?
That's going to depend on the format i.e. alternating break, length of match, to what score, and rule set.
Your question uses reverse deductive logic as Detective Goren might say.
At the highest level of play, basically all the games become the same or equal.
When you are playing your very best, then it's not a question of skill any longer.
It's a question of which is the hardest game to play, or master, for you because
in reality, none of the games are easy until you are playing your best. So it is
really a question of which games are the most challenging or difficult for you.
At the highest level of play, basically all the games become the same or equal.
When you are playing your very best, then it's not a question of skill any longer.
It's a question of which is the hardest game to play, or master, for you because
in reality, none of the games are easy until you are playing your best. So it is
really a question of which games are the most challenging or difficult for you.
John Disque
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As 9ballhasbeen pointed out.... 9-ball tells you what to do..... but there's a difference in "that" and being able to do it.
8-ball is the easiest game for a high-level player to play but I would rather play and watch 8-ball because it DOESN'T dictate itself. - You get to see players using their creativity and doing things that you may-not have considered. (THAT issue can open doors on the right and wrong way to do things.... or even "how to think.")
Anyway - 8-Ball is SVB's favorite game. <--- Just thought I'd throw that in here.
8-ball is the easiest game for a high-level player to play but I would rather play and watch 8-ball because it DOESN'T dictate itself. - You get to see players using their creativity and doing things that you may-not have considered. (THAT issue can open doors on the right and wrong way to do things.... or even "how to think.")
Anyway - 8-Ball is SVB's favorite game. <--- Just thought I'd throw that in here.
I would not have to post a video of myself to support an argument. The question refers to "At the highest level".
At the highest level straight pool has seen a 526 ball run. At the highest level, what other games approach that?
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Good honest argument backed up with facts.
The next question would be, which game is the most beautiful to see a BnR when executed flawlessly?
Depends-
It depends on what you are trying to accomplish.
If your goal is to have a recognizable game for amateurs and new players to play- then 8 Ball seems best.
If your goal is to find those who have more advanced knowledge and skill but still be relate-able to the masses, 9 Ball seems a natural fit.
If your goal is to truly see who plays best.
Call pocket 10 Ball with WPA rules would suit the bill.
I am only considering solids and stripes and quick rotation games for the sake of this discussion.
Straight Pool 14.1 should always be played no matter what!
Grow your arsenal like Efren- play a game or two of everything! (If you desire mastery, play 'em all more)
IMHO
It depends on what you are trying to accomplish.
If your goal is to have a recognizable game for amateurs and new players to play- then 8 Ball seems best.
If your goal is to find those who have more advanced knowledge and skill but still be relate-able to the masses, 9 Ball seems a natural fit.
If your goal is to truly see who plays best.
Call pocket 10 Ball with WPA rules would suit the bill.
I am only considering solids and stripes and quick rotation games for the sake of this discussion.
Straight Pool 14.1 should always be played no matter what!
Grow your arsenal like Efren- play a game or two of everything! (If you desire mastery, play 'em all more)
IMHO
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thats a subjective matter of opinion that will vary from each person
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IMO 14.1 or straight pool is the game of chess players. One pocket is also pretty tough. Only the top players will engage competitively in them. Snooker if your in Europe.
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Table: Diamond Pro Am 9 ft with Aramith Tourney TV Pool Balls
Pool Is More Like Boxing Than Chess
I find 14.1 more like a boxing match.
You throw jabs trying to knock off some balls and wait for the opportunity to land a body shot.
Not a knock out but you know, loosen the pack and keep going avoiding the explosion scatter.
When you blast the rack whenever there's a chance to break it open, you loose control of the
dispersal pattern and bad things can happen. But as you reduce the number of balls on the table,
you reach a scatter pattern where the balls don't go past the side pockets and avoid clusters and
object balls at the other end of the table.
In chess, you can only make a single move and then you must await your opponent's decision or
move and then you simply make the moves you laid out, sort of like Queens Pawn Opening. But
in pool, you get to control the table and make consecutive moves so to speak of & your opponent
sits helplessly awaiting your miss or safety play, whichever occurs.
In boxing, you trade blows and exchange damage, and try to avoid receiving any, but always trying to
do worse to the other guy. In pool, the same thing happens. We hit the other guy with multiple shots
that are akin to jabs....left, left, left, or right, right, right, if you're left handed. Those jabs represent the
object balls you pocket. When you play a ring game, the 5 ball and 9 ball and/or 10 ball being money
balls, well, when you pocket those, it's a punch, not a jab.
When you play safety, it's like clinching your opponent in boxing and you try to tie him up. If he doesn't
respond back strong, and you start pocketing balls again, it's like hitting your opponent as your break
away from clinching and holding him......pop, pop, pop, and then wham....the game is over and he's
on the canvas.......Then the gong sounds and it's round two ( a new round) or game two ( a new game)
and you start all over again until the match is over. The object is to win all of the rounds but obviously,
always more than your opponent versus trying to capture his "King".
Matt B.
I find 14.1 more like a boxing match.
You throw jabs trying to knock off some balls and wait for the opportunity to land a body shot.
Not a knock out but you know, loosen the pack and keep going avoiding the explosion scatter.
When you blast the rack whenever there's a chance to break it open, you loose control of the
dispersal pattern and bad things can happen. But as you reduce the number of balls on the table,
you reach a scatter pattern where the balls don't go past the side pockets and avoid clusters and
object balls at the other end of the table.
In chess, you can only make a single move and then you must await your opponent's decision or
move and then you simply make the moves you laid out, sort of like Queens Pawn Opening. But
in pool, you get to control the table and make consecutive moves so to speak of & your opponent
sits helplessly awaiting your miss or safety play, whichever occurs.
In boxing, you trade blows and exchange damage, and try to avoid receiving any, but always trying to
do worse to the other guy. In pool, the same thing happens. We hit the other guy with multiple shots
that are akin to jabs....left, left, left, or right, right, right, if you're left handed. Those jabs represent the
object balls you pocket. When you play a ring game, the 5 ball and 9 ball and/or 10 ball being money
balls, well, when you pocket those, it's a punch, not a jab.
When you play safety, it's like clinching your opponent in boxing and you try to tie him up. If he doesn't
respond back strong, and you start pocketing balls again, it's like hitting your opponent as your break
away from clinching and holding him......pop, pop, pop, and then wham....the game is over and he's
on the canvas.......Then the gong sounds and it's round two ( a new round) or game two ( a new game)
and you start all over again until the match is over. The object is to win all of the rounds but obviously,
always more than your opponent versus trying to capture his "King".
Matt B.
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