Cue Values - Joss and Helmstetter

[dennisurabe]

I am trying to get an idea of the value of 2 of my cues. Any help would be appreciated.

Cue #1

Joss "Color of Money" N7 with an orange stain. The cue was made in the early 90s and Richard Black customized a handful of them by adding an ivory butt, joint and ferrules. I have 2 shafts for this cue. 1 shaft has a slight curve. The ivory butt developed a crack in 1994 and was repaired by Richard Black.


Cue #2
Helmstetter Adams Cue. I am 99% sure this cue was made in Japan. I got it in Tokyo in the mid 90s

Let me know if there is any other information needed to value them

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[Chopdoc]

I am trying to get an idea of the value of 2 of my cues. Any help would be appreciated.

Cue #1

Joss "Color of Money" N7 with an orange stain. The cue was made in the early 90s and Richard Black customized a handful of them by adding an ivory butt, joint and ferrules. I have 2 shafts for this cue. 1 shaft has a slight curve. The ivory butt developed a crack in 1994 and was repaired by Richard Black.


Cue #2
Helmstetter Adams Cue. I am 99% sure this cue was made in Japan. I got it in Tokyo in the mid 90s

Let me know if there is any other information needed to value them

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Of course the Helmstetter was made in Japan. Where else? Helmstetters like that sell around $250-$350 on Ebay I think. YMMV


The Joss? I have no idea what to think if it was modified by another cuemaker. You say he customized a "handful"? It is unusual for a cuemaker, especially an established one, to modify another cuemaker's work with customization.


Just don't know.



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