Ciscero Murphy wants to borrow $20

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Danny DiLiberto just told me this story about Ciscero:

They were both invited to play in a big straight pool tournament on the West Coast.
Every player received free entry, free plane flights, and free hotel rooms.

Ciscero goes up to Danny D and asks him to lend him $20.
Danny says, "What for? Don't you have any cash to gamble with?"
Ciscero says, "Yeah, I got a pocket full of cash to gamble with, but I need $20 to eat dinner."
 
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Great story. Reminds me of a famous (possible apocryphal) story about Robert Johnson. From Rolling Stone:

There are really only two Robert Johnson stories. His legend is a skinny one—just the skin of these two stories, stretched over the big bones of his songs. One is about when Johnson was brought to San Antonio in November, 1937, to record for the American Record Corporation's Vocation label. Don Law, who was manager of the Texas branch of ARC, got Johnson a room in the colored hotel and went back to his place. He was eating dinner when he got a call from the police.

"Apparently he had nothing to do and he went into some dive where he played for nickels, and the place was raided," Law recalls. At the jail, Law found Johnson "back in a corner," beaten up by the cops. He bailed him out, escorted him back to the hotel and gave him 45 cents for breakfast. Back at his own hotel, Law got another call. "I'm lonesome and there's a lady here," Johnson said. "She wants fifty cents and I lacks a nickel."
 
kkdanamatt said:
Danny DiLiberto just told me this story about Ciscero:

They were both invited to play in a big straight pool tournament on the West Coast.
Every player received free entry, free plane flights, and free hotel rooms.

Ciscero goes up to Danny D and asks him to lend him $20.
Danny says, "What for? Don't you have any cash to gamble with?"
Ciscero says, "Yeah, I got a pocket full of cash to gamble with, but I need $20 to eat dinner."
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While I don't necessarily believe that story it is just entertaining. I will say I have been out eating with lots of pool player who had a pocket full of money but always ordered the cheapest thing on the menu. They don't like spending their gambling money.

As far as Danny D goes, he just borrows money all the time he has no intention of ever paying back. He is not the most honorable guy.
 
middleofnowhere said:
While I don't necessarily believe that story it is just entertaining. I will say I have been out eating with lots of pool player who had a pocket full of money but always ordered the cheapest thing on the menu. They don't like spending their gambling money.

As far as Danny D goes, he just borrows money all the time he has no intention of ever paying back. He is not the most honorable guy.
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Yes i have heard Danny attribute 'standard stories' to various pool players. As for the 'borrowing' i think Grady was the king of that.
 
kkdanamatt said:
Danny DiLiberto just told me this story about Ciscero:

They were both invited to play in a big straight pool tournament on the West Coast.
Every player received free entry, free plane flights, and free hotel rooms.

Ciscero goes up to Danny D and asks him to lend him $20.
Danny says, "What for? Don't you have any cash to gamble with?"
Ciscero says, "Yeah, I got a pocket full of cash to gamble with, but I need $20 to eat dinner."
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That is hilarious. So did danny loan him the $20, or was it just a joke? I assume it was a joke.
 
GideonF said:
Great story. Reminds me of a famous (possible apocryphal) story about Robert Johnson. From Rolling Stone:

There are really only two Robert Johnson stories. His legend is a skinny one—just the skin of these two stories, stretched over the big bones of his songs. One is about when Johnson was brought to San Antonio in November, 1937, to record for the American Record Corporation's Vocation label. Don Law, who was manager of the Texas branch of ARC, got Johnson a room in the colored hotel and went back to his place. He was eating dinner when he got a call from the police.

"Apparently he had nothing to do and he went into some dive where he played for nickels, and the place was raided," Law recalls. At the jail, Law found Johnson "back in a corner," beaten up by the cops. He bailed him out, escorted him back to the hotel and gave him 45 cents for breakfast. Back at his own hotel, Law got another call. "I'm lonesome and there's a lady here," Johnson said. "She wants fifty cents and I lacks a nickel."
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Interesting story.
 
of course cisero was making a joke or danny was embellishing something.

and anyone who loans money to someone other than a good friend that is reliable, is just another sucker to be preyed upon by the wicked. and deserves to be stiffed.
 
Really? Grady? Never woulda thought of him


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Really? Grady? Never woulda thought of him


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I think it like anything, once someone does it it becomes easier the second time. Many pool players make such a habit of borrowing money they think nothing of it.

I have seen many times when a guy is about to leave town he will borrow money whether he needs it or not. Usually small amounts that will get an easy yes. Then later when people compare notes they discover they were all played for suckers.

It is nothing for someone to borrow hundreds and often much much more from maybe a dozen people or more as they cruise out of town. Make no mistake also, they will not pay you back even if you ever have the nerve to actually ask which they know from experience you won't.

That is actually how it works, they play dumb and make you have to ask them for your own money because they know you never will. But should you ask, it is a slim chance you will get paid.

I was at a one pocket tournament and someone mentioned here had just won $2500. and had the money in his hand when someone walked up requesting he pay him the $200.00 he owed him.

The player made every excuse to not pay and from what I heard he never did. Like I said, some are not honorable people.
Sorry to disillusion anyone about pool players.
I need to add, I was not talking about Grady. Grady would give you the shirt off his back.
 
I had a real good player stop me one night,show me 70 dollars,asked to borrow 40. Story was there was a guy playing 50 dollar 8ball in a nearby stripclub so he wanted 2barrels and money to buy the guy a beer.

I dont see the player around for a while and ask anybody seen him? Reply is he is locked up. Probably do a couple of years.
Sure enough a couple of years later he shows up and wants into our little 10 ball ringgame. Now he is a pro level player,we are strong c's. Of course he wants in!

I pulled him aside and told him you still owe me a little scratch. Said I am cool with that unless you want in. We dont allow someone who owes any of us a chance to pump up off us.

His astonished reply "that was 2 years ago". I replied "I know,I was there". He coughed up the scratch got in the game and took us off. When the game broke up he offered to buy me a beer and conceded that I was right.

Now I know some will read this and think this guy is a sucker. Maybe,but we got to play cheap with a great player, who was probably going to put the bite on one of us anyways.
 
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I used to play the harness horses in my early 20s.

....my favorite poker player came up to me and my partner and said....
..."One of you has to give me $10."
My partner Calvin says "Woody, leave us alone, we know you got money."
Woody says "Yeah, I got $990...and I wanna bet a G-note on a horse."

I gave it to him....:smile:
 
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