So, nothing at all like Wanderone, and thus, as Trevis has always said, didn't copy anything from Fats except they were both,,,well hefty
I mean, there is no reason to use a character and then change all of his characteristics.
The Hustler book - quite different from the movie
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So, nothing at all like Wanderone, and thus, as Trevis has always said, didn't copy anything from Fats except they were both,,,well hefty
I mean, there is no reason to use a character and then change all of his characteristics.
Also, in the book Fats barely talks at all other than to say "Let's play pool, Fast Eddie."So, nothing at all like Wanderone, and thus, as Trevis has always said, didn't copy anything from Fats except they were both,,,well hefty
I mean, there is no reason to use a character and then change all of his characteristics.
The idea that Tevis would model the character after a notorious ham and shit-talker is pretty silly.
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I'm sure I read The Color of Money, and it didn't resemble in any way, shape or form the movie of the same name.
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I wouldn't go that far, as the book follows Fast Eddie as he gets back into pool shape and slays some old demons by entering the tournament world.
Apart from a pointless and boring dead-end storyline near the end of the book (if you read it, you'll know what I'm talking about) it's almost as good as the Hustler.
Doesn't the short story start out with Eddie getting out of prison? Don't know why I remember it that way, but I thought I remember reading a story like that....?
not without pictures you don't,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Thanks to you, I had the opportunity to read Tevis short story in Playboy. Except for the physical weight, I don't see any resemblance in the Fats character.
That's Hollywood for you. After Raging Bull, the two films Martin Scorsese directed prior to The Color of Money either tanked at the box office or just meh. Tom Cruise was a big box office draw (Top Gun). So, having him in a film was protect the studio's investment. I wouldn't be surprised if the screenplay and story was re-written many times to accommodate the actor.
The original "The Hustler" short story from Playboy is included in the excellent Byrne's Book of Great Pool Stories, although sans any vintage smut.
I read the novel version of "The Hustler" when it was reprinted in paperback a few years ago.I always wondered if the "property" they allude to at the end as an investment opportunity is Fast Eddie himself.
I like the book of TCOM too, but I can see why Scorsese didn't want to make it into a movie.
I read the novel version of "The Hustler" when it was reprinted in paperback a few years ago.I always wondered if the "property" they allude to at the end as an investment opportunity is Fast Eddie himself.
I like the book of TCOM too, but I can see why Scorsese didn't want to make it into a movie.
There was a scene in The Color of Money that I wish they had put into the movie...
...Fast Eddie shows up at a nine ball tournament...an older guy that nobody knows...
...as he's warming up, they can see that he knows what he's doing.....
...so they're curious about him.
Then he wins the lag for first break....and pops them about 15 mph...nothing falls.
Somebody in the audience says "Straight pool player."
And that's why I like reading Walter Tevis....he's one of us.
From what I remember The Color of Money movie was nothing like the book. Completely different story. Eddie hooks up with Fats (who's retired) to do some televised exhibition matches for money. Eddie has to talk Fats into it. They become pretty good friends. There is no upcoming young and cocky character like Vince in the book. It's been a while since I had it though, maybe I should read it again. All Wslter Tevis books are worth reading multiple times!
If I remember right, Fats steers Eddie somewhere down South to play 8 ball.
This thread prompted me to read the Hustler book. Got the e book on Amazon Kindle for $1.99.
Great read.
Great read.
We had our own Ames here in Milwaukee back in the day only it was called Mike's Just pool period. Couldn't even get a glass of water. Had to go next door to the bar to get a soda but you couldn't drink it in Mike's. You could smoke but otherwise just pool. Table one was covered. Had to earn your way up the ladder to play on it and Mike watched you like a Hauk. I think my high run was 64 when I was 16 with mike watching.
In my opinion, the book Color of Money is light years ahead of that monstrosity of a movie they put together. It would've been much better if the screenwriters stuck to the theme of the book.
Actually, I thought Color of Money book was a better read than the original Hustler. I know that sounds like heresy, but it's just my opinion.
Keep on truckin'
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I agree....it was more positive...made you want to forgive yourself for spending so much
time playing this game.