Predator Revo Shafts

ChrisinNC said:
A lesson I learned a long time ago - NEVER let anyone else use your cue - even just to try it out!
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I often buy cues and have a lot them so the people at my pool hall
are constantly asking if they can shoot a few shots with whatever I
happen have in the case.

I always say "yeah sure" and let them shoot a few shots.

Never once got as much as a tiny scratch or a ding.

People have always been super respectful and take extreme care
of the cues while they're shooting.
 
The problem I have with the REVO is the unsubstantiated claims that are made about it.

'Hit' just means 'Feel' and that is completely subjective.

I've read that it 'transfers more energy', but I doubt that most of the people who say this really know what that means and I highly doubt that any of them could scientifically prove it and I know none of them have.

Then I read that it is 'more forgiving'. Is this to mean that it is lower deflection? Proof? Show me the study. Show me the testing method.

As for the indestructible argument...I work professionally with carbon fiber, and it isn't nearly as indestructible as y'all seem to think it is. It's a great material...in tension, not as great in compression or *eek* impact.

So, no, I'll never try a carbon-fiber reinforced plastic shaft.
 
I ordered a 12.4 mm at the beginning of Nov and was just told today that they are back ordered and Predator isn't going to import any more until mid-Dec! This is what I was told, but who knows. I guess I'll be waiting a while.
 
Yes, of course they can try out cues I'm trying to sell. I'm talking about my own personal playing cue, as that is the only cue with a Revo shaft I have in here at the moment. My standards for how I take care of my cue are far stricter than most, so I've just made it a rule to not take that chance anymore. Last person I allowed to try out my cue, despite him being told in advance not to rake balls with the shaft, that is of course the first thing he did, so needless to say he didn't get to try it out for very long!
 
mr ed5484r said:
I am considering getting a Revo but can't decide weather to buy the 12.4 or 12.9. For those that have tried both, which do you prefer and why?
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I prefer the 12.4. Didn't like the 12.9, however, I use closed bridge 99% of time & my fingers are chubby. Always prefer a skinnier shaft.
 
9Ballr said:
I often buy cues and have a lot them so the people at my pool hall
are constantly asking if they can shoot a few shots with whatever I
happen have in the case.

I always say "yeah sure" and let them shoot a few shots....
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+1

I completely agree with this. I find it weird and off-putting when somebody doesn't even let you hold their cue, let alone shoot a couple of balls. But, to each their own, I guess.
 
Franky4Eyes said:
I like high quality solid maple best.
The Revo I had the opportunity to hit with felt
like I was shooting with a piece of a coat hanger.
Everyone has their preference for the "hit" they like.
This shaft feels soft, muted, and dull.
I will say that at least the hit was very consistent.
The feel of the hit is comparable to the cheapest wood shaft,
but with no squirt or deflection.
Honestly, it's weird.
I'm guessing sponsorship, and contractual
agreements, will keep pros saying kind things
about anything that puts food on the table.
The power of suggestion from a pro is a
mighty advertising tool.
If you can't already run a rack,
this shaft will not change that fact.
It's a neat marketing maneuver to bring another
product to market under their line.
It's definitely no advancement of science in any way.
In my very humble opinion, their best shafts were
the 314/2 and Z2 shafts.
Those felt solid and crisp; like a high quality
AAA+++ solid maple shaft with a nice ping.
This new piece of pencil lead left me unimpressed.
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Hit is subjective .... I bought two 314'2's and they both hit like crap. I seriously hate them.... Soft, mushy and really really bad.

The Revo shafts hits much stiffer and more like my old pre cat 314's.
 
PoppaSaun said:
The problem I have with the REVO is the unsubstantiated claims that are made about it.

'Hit' just means 'Feel' and that is completely subjective.

I've read that it 'transfers more energy', but I doubt that most of the people who say this really know what that means and I highly doubt that any of them could scientifically prove it and I know none of them have.

Then I read that it is 'more forgiving'. Is this to mean that it is lower deflection? Proof? Show me the study. Show me the testing method.

As for the indestructible argument...I work professionally with carbon fiber, and it isn't nearly as indestructible as y'all seem to think it is. It's a great material...in tension, not as great in compression or *eek* impact.

So, no, I'll never try a carbon-fiber reinforced plastic shaft.
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Yes hit is subjective however most would agree that most LD shafts have a softer feel to them because of lighter end mass , I simply don't feel that softness with the REVO that may be because the carbon fiber transfers that energy back to the butt better , idk but it seems that way to me

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I play with a 12.9mm P2 Revo and couldn't be happier. I consider myself a low C player so I don't know a lot about feel and feedback and a bit less or more deflection. Having said that though it has upped my game probably more from a confidence perspective. I take more care with fundamentals...why I don't know but it happens...draw seems more consistent too. I needed a table length draw in a game last week and I did it with much less of a speed stroke than I used to with my maple shafted cue. The smoothness of the finish stays with little or no maintenance so the feel stays the same day in day out.
The only thing I really don't like is the "whining" sound when using a bridge....I find it distracting. '
A couple of weeks ago Sal Conti,, the room owner where I play, tried my cue and liked it enough that he ordered one the next day. He's a nationally known trick shot and bank pool player so his endorsment made me feel good too.
 
A few weeks ago I was hitting some with a friend of mine who has a REVO. A very good player came in and was giving him grief about spending that much on a shaft, then he asked to hit a few with it. Within 5 or 6 shots it was, "so, if you ever want to sell this just let me know".....then went to full blown "how fast can you get me one?" Within a week he had one and was playing with it.

I personally don't own one....yet.
 
MeeLosh said:
+1

I completely agree with this. I find it weird and off-putting when somebody doesn't even let you hold their cue, let alone shoot a couple of balls. But, to each their own, I guess.
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agree with 2 caveats:
1. I want to see how they treat other cues for a bit first.
2. I have 2 or 3 cues I don't like to let others try (other than very close friends)
 
I have my 12.9 on a p2 butt with the victory soft tip still. I’m an a-2 player trying to be more consistent. I find the smoothness helpful and easing. I don’t notice the sound too much in reality. I like that I can play really soft shots with good confidence and put the ball where I aim.

I have had all kinds of cues and agree that we do tend to fall in love with a new to us cue. However so far so good and the run outs are coming in better than ever.

For those looking and have the money AVO gamesroom in Winnipeg Manitoba still has some revos. Great service and prompt shipping.

Anyway love my revo so far.


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Big Business said:
I have my 12.9 on a p2 butt with the victory soft tip still. I’m an a-2 player trying to be more consistent. I find the smoothness helpful and easing. I don’t notice the sound too much in reality. I like that I can play really soft shots with good confidence and put the ball where I aim.

I have had all kinds of cues and agree that we do tend to fall in love with a new to us cue. However so far so good and the run outs are coming in better than ever.

For those looking and have the money AVO gamesroom in Winnipeg Manitoba still has some revos. Great service and prompt shipping.

Anyway love my revo so far.


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Except for the fact that they want $545 for a Revo, instead of $500.

EDIT: Updated for conversion from CAD to USD and tax and shipping.
 
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For the people complaining about the price, it's like a $174 upgrade on any new cue from predator that offers a z3 or 314-3. Well worth the extra especially since it should last a lifetime with no dings or dents & remains smooth as silk without any effort.
 
Low500 said:
I agree.
They think a helluva lot more of that thing than I do.
But, if someone has the cash...then they're okay to blow it as they please.
Just too brutal for an old broke like me.
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Beam me up Scotty , it's not 650 it's 500 same cost as a black boar shaft ,, yes it's expensive however it's a life time shaft , I have 8 LD shafts not one is perfectly straight,

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Ched said:
agree with 2 caveats:
1. I want to see how they treat other cues for a bit first.
2. I have 2 or 3 cues I don't like to let others try (other than very close friends)
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Yeah. That's where I am on it.

Most of my cues never go anywhere anyway.

I enjoy taking different cues and comparing. And I don't mind others trying them. I have often let a new acquaintance try a cue or two...once I watch them a little.

Plenty of people casually bang their cue around with little care.

No matter what, when I hand somebody a cue I say "Don't bang it on anything."

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poolhustler said:
Hit is subjective .... I bought two 314'2's and they both hit like crap. I seriously hate them.... Soft, mushy and really really bad.

The Revo shafts hits much stiffer and more like my old pre cat 314's.
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They did change the tip that came stock on the shafts
a couple times.
The 314-2 I shot with had a triangle installed,
and was on a Joss West. Pretty firm hit.
The 2 different Z2 shafts had different tips-
One with an Everest, on an old Joss.
The other had a Victory, on a curly maple Sugartree.
Both were very solid, with a hard hit.
The Victory felt a little more crisp on the Sugartree.
(Pun intended. Lol)
I definitely liked the Z2 more than 314-2.
Maybe your tip was softer than what I experienced...
Could that possibly explain why we're having such
polar experiences with these shafts?
I'll find out what tip was on the Revo I tried out.
If you all feel it offers an edge to your game,
that's great!
However, it might feel weird to some people.
Personally, the Revo 12.9, honestly reminded me of the old carbon fiber Cuetec sticks at Sears back in the day.
 
one stroke said:
beam me up scotty , it's not 650 it's 500 same cost as a black boar shaft ,, yes it's expensive however it's a life time shaft , i have 8 ld shafts not one is perfectly straight,



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