What to Buy: Custom Cues or Production Cues

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Friends, I would love to share something I wrote yesterday.


Yesterday morning, I received an inquiry from a buddy from Maxtronix, Inc.
He is planning to buy a pool cue and asked for my thoughts on what to purchase.

I asked him several questions to help me determine how to best assist him.
After hearing out his answers, I then gave him my suggestions.

And then I remembered the comment I made on a “Custom Cues
vs. Production Cues” thread a few weeks ago. It’s quite a read.

I am reposting it here in its entirety, with a few minor edits for clarity.

Hope it helps pool players and friends who are in a similar situation
– the search for that perfect cue.
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What to Buy: Custom Cues or Production Cues?

In my humble opinion, if one is just starting out, like “super beginner”,
and have nothing in his/her arsenal yet, get a production cue that fits the budget.
If your budget allows you to purchase a $2,000 cue, you have a lot of options
to choose from. Go for it! And if your budget is around $100, try to find something
in the range, too - many choices still.

Or if one is blessed with friends who have cues, production or custom,
politely ask them if you could shoot a few balls with it while they are not playing.
You would be surprised that a majority would say yes! Most people in a
pool hall share the common passion for the sport and would gladly let you
look at, use, and shoot a few balls using their cue. This will allow you to test
and get a feel of the cue you are interested in - without actually having
to purchase one. Just remember not to shoot like you are breaking the rack
(unless you are trying out a break cue). And never drop the cue! :)

After trying out several cues, pick the one you liked best based on how well
you feel shooting with it on the table. Ask the owner about it, e.g., price,
where to buy, etc. If you are lucky, the owner might even sell you the cue
if he/she is in the process of getting another one!

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There's this guy I know who started with a graphite cue stick and another one
with a shaft supposedly coated with fiberglass, which he purchased
from a popular sports shop - thinking like WOW! They're the most expensive here
so they must be the best.

So, here he goes to a pool hall. Whenever he shoots, there was this buzz
he feels in the palm butt of the cue after each shot. It wasn't a pleasant feeling
- it was like irritating! Still, he goes on playing thinking that it was normal.
After all, the cue was spankin' brand new!

Soon, he is friends with members of the billiards club.
They had this funny look on their faces when they saw the graphite cue
and fiberglass cues. One particular chap was kind enough to point to him
the “pros” and “cons” of the said cues. And the chap allowed my friend
to try out the cue he was using - a cue with a maple shaft.

He shot an entire rack of balls with it and my friend instantly noticed the difference,
with emphasis on the feel of the shot and the absence of that irritating buzz thing.
The chap continued to highlight the various differences between a maple shaft
and a fiberglass-coated shaft and a graphite cue.

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Around two weeks after, my friend noticed this beautiful cue - all black butt
with a 314 shaft - a cue made by Predator Cues. He kept looking at it - staring at it
even! He fell in love with it at first sight! The owner came back for it
(who apparently used the restroom). He gave my friend a weird "Don't you dare
touch my cue! This cue is expensive!" look. Ha ha ha! Can't blame the guy, right?
My friend was like new to pool and that pool hall.

My friend asked his chap buddy what that Predator cue was.
And the chap readily obliged telling my friend about it,
including where to purchase one in the Philippines (in a pool shop in Shangri-La,
Mandaluyong.) My friend also browsed about it on the Internet computer network
- he was lucky because not everyone had Internet connection at home then.
Less than a week after, my friend brought with him his newly-purchased,
brand new Predator P2 with a 314 shaft – the latest,
most technologically-advanced billiard cue from Predator Cues that time!

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After like a month or so, my friend took up billiards lessons
with a very good maestro. After just four weeks of lessons with his teacher,
my friend successfully bagged his first trophy! And at one class higher, too!
He got lucky, indeed!

I know that it is the Indian and not the arrow. But my friend managed
to get the best arrow among the lot of arrows to choose from.
Besides, it made him feel good about everything - "taking out a major part
of the equation" in his goal of becoming the best player he could be.
And they say that billiards is 90% mental and 10% physical - imagine
the boost in my friend's confidence!

Soon, my friend was very lucky to have been sponsored with beautiful cues,
cue cases, and pool accessories from several known companies
in the billiards industry. And he was able to tell that not all cues hit the same
or have the same feel whether or not they came from the same manufacturer
or maker. Iba-iba rin talaga.

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My friend was also very fortunate and blessed to know and be friends
with some of the well-known cue makers in the Philippines
and from other parts of the world. Indeed, the local cue makers
were very nice to my friend. They answered all his queries and helped satisfy
his thirst and hunger for knowledge about woods and their origins and characteristics,
shaft taper, balance and balance point, weight, wraps, wrap types, and wrapless,
ferrules, spins, cored or not, hit, taper, feel, tips, finishes,
cue making techniques, machines, etc.

The cue makers let my friend try out their cues! They even gave him cues
as gifts - even though my friend tried his very best to refuse their kindness
and even offered to pay for the cues - thinking that it is their business
and main source of income; that to actually receive the cues as gifts
might mean less money in the pockets of his cue maker friends and their families.
But the cue makers refused - saying that they would be very happy for my friend
to have one of their cues; that it would be a privilege for them to see my friend
have one made by their very own hands. Same with the cue makers abroad.

At this point in time, my friend knew exactly what he looked for in a cue -
his personal preference. A custom cue made for one may not exactly feel right
for another player. After all, that cue was custom-made for a specific person.
Yes, it is possible that a custom cue made for Person A will also suit Person B
(them having the same preference). And it is also likely that the cue
will not suit Person C and so on.

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My friend is good buddies with this professional billiards player,
on and off the pool scene. He was there when the pro met his
custom cue maker sponsor from the United States.

The cue maker brought a lot of shafts with him - more than a dozen if memory
serves me right. The pro spent like two (2) hours hitting balls (various shot types)
using the different shafts brought along by the cue maker. My friend noticed
that the pro set aside around 4 shafts on another table, which he shot again
with after trying the others. Again, and again, and again, the pro shot
with the four shafts he set aside on another table.
He then narrowed down the lot to two.

The shafts were all made by the same cue maker but only two (2) "passed"
the pro's feel, need, and want. The pro discussed with the cue maker
why he selected the two and that he needed more of these.
The cue maker wanted to know more about the pro’s preferences,
which he acknowledged. My friend also learned from the custom cue maker
that these two shafts were quite special among the lot.
These two came from a specific wood, from a specific place, with a specific,
special history behind them. Imagine that! Out of all the shafts tested by the pro,
his feel and preference narrowed his choices to these two specific shafts
that had a specific, special history behind them! And oh! The cue maker
readily obliged and gave his word to provide the pro with shafts made
from this specific wood.

The relationship between the custom cue maker and the pro billiards player
is a beautiful one! The pro became an international sensation
in the billiards circuit and he still is! And the cue maker is one of the most
recognized names in the industry! And he is also a recipient of several awards!

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Only after hitting and shooting thousands of balls, and if you will allow me to say so,
hundreds of racks, too, and trying out different cues (both production and custom)
only will you get to realize what "feel" truly is. This feel is your personal
preference. Some are very blessed to know what it means outright
while it takes a bit tad longer for others.

Again, these are just my humble opinions and thoughts,
sharing my friend's experiences, which I was very fortunate to bear witness to.
And I kid you not!

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Have fun in your search for the perfect cue!
AnitoKid

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X’S:
Once, my friend was asked by another person why he lets others shoot
with his cues. According to this person, my friend’s cues cost a lot, are very beautiful, and should just be displayed in glass cases. I could still remember my friend's reply:

"I have been very blessed to actually have sponsors. Let them shoot with it
and get the feel for it. Who knows, they may like it so much that they will buy one
or save for one.

My sponsors only had one wish from me - that is to use them. And for me,
a part of that means sharing the blessings, even if it means letting others use it
and hit a rack or two. They will not drop it nor steal it - I know them.
They are also your friends, right?"

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AK
 
Sorry, I don't facebook. But that is well written and full of good advice. Thanks for posting it.
 
Other AZers have played with many of my custom cues.
I used to let anyone try my cues but after a dozen cues substantially damaged, those days are over.
I can tell horror stories for an hour about the 12 different scenarios where my cues have been damaged.
It's not what you think, what goes on in people's minds while playing with someone else's cues would surprise you.
The player could be the most respectful responsible person on the planet, but when they get a cue in their hands that isn't theirs something snaps.
My advice is not to let anyone use your cues unless you are standing there, ready to catch the cue, hovering over the table, with a constant reminder that it is not their cue.

Don't let people take the cues farther than an arms length away from you.
I guess it's okay to just let someone use your cues willy nilly, but don't be surprised when you get it back with a chunk out of it.
Something changes subconsciously with certain people when they play with a cue that isn't theirs.
The damaged is never intended, and some people are just plain clumsy.

Peace
 
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Easy Answer

A beginner, or anyone buying their first two-piece cue, would best buy a solid well-built cue and find guidance or instruction on how to groom and maintain a tip. That first cue could be anything from an inexpensive vintage cue to a Schmelke Sneaky Pete. Either option could be had in the $200 range.

From that point, the beginner can begin to learn about cues and what he/she might prefer while using something very playable.

The sad reality is that the average beginner will walk right past a decent player and buy a new decal cue or something more expensive and flashy. My know-it-all son-in-law opted to buy a new Minnesota Fats cue which he shortened in his chop saw.
 
Other AZers have played with many of my custom cues.
I used to let anyone try my cues but after a dozen cues substantially damaged, those days are over.
I can tell horror stories for an hour about the 12 different scenarios where my cues have been damaged.
It's not what you think, what goes on in people's minds while playing with someone else's cues would surprise you.
The player could be the most respectful responsible person on the planet, but when they get a cue in their hands that isn't theirs something snaps.
My advice is not to let anyone use your cues unless you are standing there, ready to catch the cue, hovering over the table, with a constant reminder that it is not their cue.

Don't let people take the cues farther than an arms length away from you.
I guess it's okay to just let someone use your cues willy nilly, but don't be surprised when you get it back with a chunk out of it.
Something changes subconsciously with certain people when they play with a cue that isn't theirs.
The damaged is never intended, and some people are just plain clumsy.

Peace

I have played with a number of your cues and always treated them with more care and respect then my own cues.
And you know how much i love the mighty Lucasi Cocobolo cue.

I once was lucky enough to try a couple of Buskas that belonged to someone else.
You were there and said that one cue was worth $20K and the other $30k.
I was extremely careful how i handled the cues.
Besides the person that damaged your cues hasn't been seen since his ill fated pool room closed.
 
I have played with a number of your cues and always treated them with more care and respect then my own cues.
And you know how much i love the mighty Lucasi Cocobolo cue.

I once was lucky enough to try a couple of Buskas that belonged to someone else.
You were there and said that one cue was worth $20K and the other $30k.
I was extremely careful how i handled the cues.
Besides the person that damaged your cues hasn't been seen since his ill fated pool room closed.


It's different with you Bruce, you've been around pool halls your entire life, you've had a lot of cues, and you know what you're doing.
Like me, your brain doesn't shut down when you get a pool cue in your hands.

I'm just warning people to be vigilant.
It's easy to tell people to let everyone tryout your cues when there is little or no investment involved.
 
It's different with you Bruce, you've been around pool halls your entire life, you've had a lot of cues, and you know what you're doing.
Like me, your brain doesn't shut down when you get a pool cue in your hands.

I'm just warning people to be vigilant.
It's easy to tell people to let everyone tryout your cues when there is little or no investment involved.


Good point.
 
Beginners should buy a cue they are attracted to but don;t spend a lot on your 1st cue....keep it under $500.
Postpone getting a custom built until you learn more about pool cues and find put what you like in a cue.

Rather than explain the anatomy of a pool cue, let's just cut to the quick.......cue specs are important.
As a first time cue buyer, your knowledge & exposure to different features of a cue are scant & inadequate.

As you play more & become exposed to cues owned by others, ask and try since that's how you learn..
For more than 40 years I played with 5/16x14 steel joint cues. In 2004, I ordered my 1st flat ivory joint cue.

After getting my Scruggs, I switched to playing strictly with flat ivory joints and have never gone back.
I spent decades playing pool before I found nirvana so do take the time to ascertain what you like best.

Once you know what is the best combo, you're ready to order or search for a cue that is made to your likes.
Up until that time, don't splurge but make it a point to learn more about other people's custom pool cues.

Don't buy a pre-owned custom, or order a new one, until you have a better idea what you want in a pool cue.
It's more than just two halves of equal length wood screwed together with a leather tip attached at the end.


Matt B.
 
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