Balls bounceup off Valley rails

r9ball

r9ball

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Local bar has 7' Valley tables. I believe rails are Valley. Gorina Basalt cloth 88% worsted wool from Meullers. Over the past few months, the balls will jump off rails. Not on every table.
I seen on forum where excess polish on balls, cushion nose cloth might have this effect. He does polish the balls with a homemade bucket polisher and wax. Not sure how often,
This also may have started when last recovered. Not sure what a valley nose rail height should be.
I told owner I would try to get some more info on his rail problem.
I will try and get any more info if needed.
Thanks
 
r9ball said:
Local bar has 7' Valley tables. I believe rails are Valley. Gorina Basalt cloth 88% worsted wool from Meullers. Over the past few months, the balls will jump off rails. Not on every table.
I seen on forum where excess polish on balls, cushion nose cloth might have this effect. He does polish the balls with a homemade bucket polisher and wax. Not sure how often,
This also may have started when last recovered. Not sure what a valley nose rail height should be.
I told owner I would try to get some more info on his rail problem.
I will try and get any more info if needed.
Thanks
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I can answer your question, but I'm going to wait and see what the experts say the problem is first!!
 
r9ball said:
Local bar has 7' Valley tables. I believe rails are Valley. Gorina Basalt cloth 88% worsted wool from Meullers. Over the past few months, the balls will jump off rails. Not on every table.
I seen on forum where excess polish on balls, cushion nose cloth might have this effect. He does polish the balls with a homemade bucket polisher and wax. Not sure how often,
This also may have started when last recovered. Not sure what a valley nose rail height should be.
I told owner I would try to get some more info on his rail problem.
I will try and get any more info if needed.
Thanks
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Take one of the rails off so you can take look at the cloth install on it. When a table mechanic recovers the rails, they attach the cloth behind the rail on the upper half of the rail on the back side, but they staple the cloth on the bottom side of the rails also, instead of wrapping the cloth around under the bottom, the up behind the back side and stapling it there. The result is you have a cloth shim behind the back, upper half of the rail, causing it to tilt downward, but no cloth wrapped around under and up the back side bottom of the rail to counter act the cloth shim behind the top, so the rails are tiled at a downward angle, causing the ball hop. The side rails aren't as bad as the end rails when this kind of work is done. A temporary fix is to take 1/2" wide strips of cloth and stapling them to the rail caps below the rail bolts the full length of the rail cap so that when the rails are remounted, the cloth strip kicks out the bottom of the rail which raises the nose height, which stops the balls from hopping.
 
realkingcobra said:
You've had almost 3 weeks to answer his question....yet not a sound from you or anyone else....yes, GOD has spoken!
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Never saw it. I am not that devoted to this site. If I see a post that captures my attention, I may respond. Otherwise, I only use this site for entertainment.

I just performed this exact fix on 4 tables about a month ago.
 
bradsh98 said:
Never saw it. I am not that devoted to this site. If I see a post that captures my attention, I may respond. Otherwise, I only use this site for entertainment.

I just performed this exact fix on 4 tables about a month ago.
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Then that just backs up my statement that there's a LOT of so called table mechanics working on pool tables, taking money for their work....that don't know what the hell they're doing!
 
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