Been watching the Japanese event. Great pool. This game should be the standard rotation game. Its so much better than 9ball its a joke. We play it the same way(WPA rules) with one exception: you can carom/combo the 10b for win. Kinda spices the game up a bit. I like the call-shot/no call safe format. Not a fan of removing the 2-way shot from the game. Thanks go to rackbyrack for the very good YT stream.
In praise on Ten-ball.................
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10 ball is a perfect game!
There's simply one ball too many... :yeah: :smilewinkgrin: :yeah:
A good one to sweat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IhPSsp14rw Match starts around the 7min. mark.
I think the only way to remove 2-ways from the game is to make every miss a pushout (opponent can force you to shoot again). Is that how it's played?
pj
chgo
Thank you, sir! I am sweating away!
Yeah, how'd he hit that first break? 3 balls made, perfect on the 3 ball, everything spread wide. Dead out.
Niccceeeeeee.
I think we've touched on this before. Yes, that's basically it. I know that Robles' Predator Pro/Am tour has used call shot/call safe for years and his players seem to like it. WPA rules are call shot but no call safe thus preserving the 2way. At my local spot we allow combo's/carom's on the 10b for a win whereas the WPA requires 10b to go last. I think our version is sometimes referred to as "Pro 10b" rules, 10b doesn't count on the snap but can be carom'd/combo'd(called of course) to win. Great way to play.
I thought so too. I don’t like call-safe either - the two-way is a skill.
Thanks.
pj
chgo
Waaaayyyyyyyyyyyyy back when, in the army, in basic training, I was 17 and spent EVERY SPARE SECOND ( and, no, not a lot of it, but still ) playing pool. This was Ft. Ord, Calif, just outside Monterey. A MUCH older guy ( must've been all of 24, 25 ) from L.A., kinda took me under his wing and we ended up playing alot together ( which was frustrating, to say the least, as he played pretty sporty and NEVER let up on me ). He's the first person ever to show me, by picking the right shot, how to go for a ball, go for position, and STILL play safe if I missed. The first time he tried to explain it to me, my eyes went all glassy. After about his 2,741st attempt at both explaining and showing me, I finally got the hang of it. It wasn't called a 2-way, though. It wasn't called anything at all, as far as I know. It was simply something you needed to know if you wanted to play well. I'll never forget that. I've wondered what ever happened to that guy. I don't even remember his name anymore.
How 'bout "Two-way Ray from Monterrey"?
I prefer to call EVERYTHING.
How 'bout "Two-way Ray from Monterrey"?
You can call me Ray or you can call me Jay or you can cal...
But he was from L.A. He was only a temp in Monterey, courtesy of Uncle Sam.
Good player. Determined. And smart...
You all *always* call everything. Cause yer from Hah-vah-ee. But you call it in Hah-vah-yan so none of us have any fookin' idea what yer talkin' about. But we always go "Wow... that sounds really cool."
:grin:
And then we have another Blue Hawaii. A double...
Call safe is catastrophic and should never be permitted in our game. It "dumbs down" the game and drains it of much of its beauty.
Call shot, while giving a benefit that some treasure by eliminating certain types of luck, also has its downside. There are many positions in which more than one shot can be played at the same time, and such shots bring rotation pool to a higher level of majesty. In addition, bank shots can be played in a way that increases the likelihood of making the object ball on a double bank should the bank be missed. Playing a bank this way is not about luck but about great skill and superior knowledge.
I'm against anything that takes any of the skill and creativity out of the game. That said, though, as an annual novelty, I have always enjoyed the Derby City Big Foot 10-ball, which is played on ten foot tables.
For me, I don't want call shot. Played Texas Express style, ten ball is a great game, but as long as ten ball is call shot, I far prefer nine ball by a whole lot.
Call shot, while giving a benefit that some treasure by eliminating certain types of luck, also has its downside. There are many positions in which more than one shot can be played at the same time, and such shots bring rotation pool to a higher level of majesty. In addition, bank shots can be played in a way that increases the likelihood of making the object ball on a double bank should the bank be missed. Playing a bank this way is not about luck but about great skill and superior knowledge.
I'm against anything that takes any of the skill and creativity out of the game. That said, though, as an annual novelty, I have always enjoyed the Derby City Big Foot 10-ball, which is played on ten foot tables.
For me, I don't want call shot. Played Texas Express style, ten ball is a great game, but as long as ten ball is call shot, I far prefer nine ball by a whole lot.
There is very little luck in 10 ball and unless the called object falls into the called pocket and not one
of the other five pockets on the table, you lose the inning. There is no slop in 10 ball and goodness to
gracious, there can be so much luck that happens in a 9 ball match. So yes, 10 ball is a tougher game
because you can't just blast the balls when you haven't a clear shot wishing and hoping the 9 ball drops
somewhere so you can win the game. That ain't happening in 10 ball because if that 10 drops anywhere
except where you called it, it gets respotted.....10 Ball takes away the edge that 9 Ball affords, i.e., slop.
Matt B.
of the other five pockets on the table, you lose the inning. There is no slop in 10 ball and goodness to
gracious, there can be so much luck that happens in a 9 ball match. So yes, 10 ball is a tougher game
because you can't just blast the balls when you haven't a clear shot wishing and hoping the 9 ball drops
somewhere so you can win the game. That ain't happening in 10 ball because if that 10 drops anywhere
except where you called it, it gets respotted.....10 Ball takes away the edge that 9 Ball affords, i.e., slop.
Matt B.
Hey, I took basic at Ord too - waaaaayyyyyyy back in Nov/Dec 1965.
pj <- dating myself, but who else will?
chgo
Well... at least you're a cheap date... so you got *that* goin' for ya.
You got me beat by 7 years, PJ. I was there in 72. Where did you do AIT? And don't tell me Polk, either.
Heavy equipment training at Leonard Wood, followed by jump school at Benning. Heard Polk was a b!tch.
pj
chgo
Ft. Puke, Lousy-ana? Why, how dare you? It was HEAVEN! TIGERLAND FORVER!!!
@ Spring, 1942, My future mother ( born and raised, Columbus, Ga. ) tripped over the feet of my future father ( enrolled at the War College ) at Ft. Benning's lone bowling alley. And some 12 1/2 years later? History was born...
:yeah:
It's basically what could also be called "playing the ball to the correct side of the pocket". Try to make it, but if you miss it, miss it on the correct side and at the correct speed, so it doesn't leave your opponent an easy shot, but if you make it, you'll have shape on the next ball. Most of the time, this means if you miss, make sure you overcut the ball. Only problem with this strategy is sometimes you miss it just enough to hang the ball up in the pocket.