Siming Chen vs Donny Mills

ShortBusRuss said:
Dolores Riordian (sp?) providing a good backdrop as Siming goes 5-1 singing "Linger"...

"I was wrong...", "Such a fool for you.......", and pertaining to the hanging 2 Donny missed.... "Did you have to let it linger?"

😎😁🤣😎
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I love Dolores O'Riordan's voice. May she RIP.
 
I'm actually surprised that there are people that don't think she's a true 783. Just WATCH her play for crying out loud. She's one solid player.
 
jasonlaus said:
You’re starting to get a glimpse of her higher speed. Would like to see her with 1 on the spot where she can string some racks together by making some balls on the break.
Jason
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I've seen her play for yrs I'll take Ruslan everyday of the week on any table with any rack


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Big chicken wing on that 7.... Holy crap.. Is he rusty, or have his fundamentals always been a shade suspect?

6-4 Siming Chen
 
Eric. said:
Actually, that's not entirely accurate. At a certain point, the variance starts to narrow. For example, the winning advantage goes way up from a race to 3 vs a race to 25. Thing is, you get finishing returns so a race to 100 is not that more advantageous than, say, a race to 50.


Eric
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Yea but i was referring to Bergman and Donnie thinking Donnie would win big in a race to 100. Much different then 2 small races. If this goes both sets tonight we should get a better reading.
 
JB Cases said:
Two of the best posts in the thread.

AND to add to that NO ONE - I mean NO ONE who backs Justin Bergman wants to spot her her 30 games in a race to 100 against Justin. If Justin thinks that Donny is supposed to win by 30 games then he must be able to win by MORE than 30 and IF anyone is crazy enough to back Justin giving up that weight I will be right there betting on Si Ming. But that will never go off and we know why. She can PLAY, flat out play and Justin was wrong.
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But Justin would probably spot her 20 games. I'm all in on Justin if that happens.
 
I still find it humorous that the chauvinists of the board are sitting here watching her run out from EVERYWHERE, even cutting a 70 degree cut shot with the BRIDGE in the second rack and getting out behind it, but think it's impossible that she would trade sets with Corey Deuel, which is what her Fargo predicts.

And as far as Melling is concerned, he won the Derby City 9 ball last year in what I would call rather unlikely circumstances. He's simply not as good a player as John Morra, and outrun the nuts for a set. He's not Shane Van Boening. He shoots at shots that he probably shouldn't, and gets away with it because of a great stroke. But given that he shoots at everything, he's occasionally gonna just leave a ball or two sitting dead in the hole, when he next shot was gonna be another 60 degree table length shot.

Some players have great strokes combined with 90% decision making, like Melling. Some people have 95% stroke combined with 95% decision making, like Van Boening. Some people have close to 100% decision making and strokes, like Big Ko.

I would put Siming around 93% stroke combined with about 93% decision making. Her stroke falls off a bit until she gets table speed down. Donny is about 85% and 90%, and his performance against Siming reflects that.
 
cookie man said:
Yea but i was referring to Bergman and Donnie thinking Donnie would win big in a race to 100. Much different then 2 small races. If this goes both sets tonight we should get a better reading.
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I'd say Donny's chances of winning the current set are less than 5%.
 
cookie man said:
Yea but i was referring to Bergman and Donnie thinking Donnie would win big in a race to 100. Much different then 2 small races. If this goes both sets tonight we should get a better reading.
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But that's the thing.. NO chance it goes two sets. And Donny might have to get a little lucky for her to not steamroll him from here on out.

Donny has been able to compete with top tier pros when the 1 was on the spot, and he could guarantee himself nice easy starts to racks. When the 9 ball on the spot, there is MUCH more play in the racks, and all the faults in his game are brought to light.
 
Beautiful cross-side bank on the 6 by Donny, with four cushion shape on the 7.

Chen up 8-5.
 
cookie man said:
Yea but i was referring to Bergman and Donnie thinking Donnie would win big in a race to 100. Much different then 2 small races. If this goes both sets tonight we should get a better reading.
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Now races to 21 are considered small races. :-)

You know what, I have some money saved up. If Justin Bergman's backers see this then I will bet up to $50,000 that Justin will not win playing Siming Chen 9 or 10 ball if he spots her 20 games racing to 100.

It's math Dave. Nothing about feelings. Justin is a WORLD CLASS player. So is she. The match says that 20 is too much weight to overcome. Not that it can't be done but that it is a very large task and is unlikely to happen.
 
cookie man said:
But Justin would probably spot her 20 games. I'm all in on Justin if that happens.
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This would be a total sucker bet. On your part. Justin's break is by far the weakest part of his game, and his shot making might be a hair under Siming's, so you would be betting that his decision-making and pattern play are a full 20% better than Siming's.

Also, I will be frank and say that Justin's slow play throws off many opponent's, and I really do think he does it on purpose as a strategy to throw off his opponent's stroke. No WAY Roy let's him play Siming without a shot clock.A nd Justin's decision making is gonna go down a few percent when "rushed".
 
JB Cases said:
Now races to 21 are considered small races. :-)

You know what, I have some money saved up. If Justin Bergman's backers see this then I will bet up to $50,000 that Justin will not win playing Siming Chen 9 or 10 ball if he spots her 20 games racing to 100.

It's math Dave. Nothing about feelings. Justin is a WORLD CLASS player. So is she. The match says that 20 is too much weight to overcome. Not that it can't be done but that it is a very large task and is unlikely to happen.
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I asked one of her backers if Ruslan could beat her by 20 in 10 ball to a hundred he replied, more


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one stroke said:
I asked one of her backers if Ruslan could beat her by 20 in 10 ball to a hundred he replied, more


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Yeah, but that is TEN ball, where the power of his break is a massive advantage. And gee.. One of HER backers is angling for more games on the wire, and you accept it as the wholesale truth, and a "fair" line? Do you even gamble, bro?

Make it 20 games, 9 ball on the spot.

If you still like it, then go find $10,000.00 and JB will be happy to put her in action..
 
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ShortBusRuss said:
Yeah, but that is TEN ball, where the power of his break is a massive advantage. Make it 20 games, 9 ball on the spot.

If you still like it, then go find $10,000.00 and JB will be happy to put her in action..
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Her 10 ball break is way better than her 9 on the spot break
Jason
 
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