Green Fee For League?

Do you pay a green fee for league?

  • Yes

    Votes: 32 59.3%

  • No

    Votes: 22 40.7%
  • Total voters
    54
spktur said:
And every business owner that owns his own property charges his business rent to cover the taxes, maintenance and upkeep along with showing some income on his investment. People like I see posting on here are the very reason so many pool rooms go broke around the country.
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You missed the rest of the conversation: I clearly stated there was money in selling bottled water.

The reason rooms are closing: BAD BUSINESS.... There are tons of successful rooms in the US. I even mentioned the 3 I service here in Toledo are doing well and making money. It is because they know what they are doin..... They both also happen to sell bottled water!! :)

Trent from Toledo:thumbup:
 
trentfromtoledo said:
You missed the rest of the conversation: I clearly stated there was money in selling bottled water.

The reason rooms are closing: BAD BUSINESS.... There are tons of successful rooms in the US. I even mentioned the 3 I service here in Toledo are doing well and making money. It is because they know what they are doin..... They both also happen to sell bottled water!! :)

Trent from Toledo:thumbup:
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I guess we have the secrets to saving pool narrowed down to two: glue and bottled water. ;)
 
Floyd_M said:
Some of us are retired and on fixed income... :(
Others like to play but simply don't have that extra $$.

Everyone should think past their noses, or at least try.
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I get the fixed income thing, but if you can afford to get to a pool hall (unless the home is dropping you off in their bus), you can certainly afford a buck.

Maybe it's the older folks inflated sense of the value of a buck? A dollar is hardly worth anything now. It was worth 7 times as much 50 years ago.

Note that the NYC subway fare is now $2.75, a newspaper is $2.50, a hot dog about the same. A six pack is $6 to $16, depending.

A buck is nothing.
 
trentfromtoledo said:
First of all: Paying rent is the worst business practice ever. No offense to room owners that to lease their spaces, but, you can sure bet those people HATE paying it and would rather own it.

Anyone even remotely thinking of opening a pool room would be wise to make it a 2 tier business plan: 1. A real estate investment by BUYING the building and 2. The Pool Hall as a separate business that pays rent to their other business.

You are just being ridiculous. Cash flows are cash flows, telling me that $10k + is not money worth thinking about is just stupid. There are all kinds of customers in pool halls and they all add up to paying the bills..... Not "debating" with you anymore, you obviously are not worth the time.

Trent from Toledo

P.s. All three Pool Rooms I service here in Toledo have the scenario I described and they all make money.
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One of us owns a room and the other is playing make believe.
 
garczar said:
I guess we have the secrets to saving pool narrowed down to two: glue and bottled water. ;)
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HAHAHA That is some funny stuff!!!

The RKC250 is doing very well! It is a great product :)

I was by no means saying bottled water was saving anything. What I did say is that it is in fact profitable. So is the booze, Jukebox, the pro shop, the food, lotto and video games.

MissCue South & North and Racktime here in Toledo do great business and are busy all the time. I know the owners of both well, I service all their pool tables, shoot pool with them and my shop is right next door to MissCue South. South and Racktime do awesome business , North is getting renovated and will start crankin again once it is done.

The point I was making is that there are many different types of customer and they all spend some kind of money: even the water drinkers. Anyone who says differently is a fool.

Trent from Toledo
 
We split a dollar coin drop for league play and practice, I thought it odd that there is a sign on the wall stating all tables must be locked, not open for league play.
There is free iced water from one of those tall pitchers with a on/off valve, a real bar type of plastic glass to drink from. There is a tip jar handy.
The gals working the place are nice, try to keep everybody happy... legally.
I fit into the not so big of a spender, catch the happy hour pricing for 1 beer,
do the cash exchange for quarters, get as much practice play in as possible before
league starts, Mon & Wed.
They're up to 10 - 7' diamond's now, 8 reds, 2 blues, get lots of use, still play a dollars worth.
 
I think most people would disagree.
Yes, semi good to good players play fast, but $5 is a very small price to pay considering there are places that are 2x that per game.

I really don't see the issue with a few $ for a sport we love.

tashworth19191 said:
Reasonable fees are fine, but when you play 5 games for $5 that is too expensive.
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If there are curious souls out there thinking about venturing into the pool business, I hope they don't bump into this thread.
 
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Green Fees

theattendant said:
Hey Everyone,

Our league recently moved to a new pool hall, and on the first night of the league we were informed they were charging a 1$ green fee. I understand that it is only a dollar, but it's more about the principal here. I have been playing in leagues on and off for the last 12 years in 3 different states and they have never charged a green fee.

In my view, most pool halls are happy to have the food and beverage business that the league brings in on a night that would usually be considered an "off" night.

My question is, do you guys and gals pay a green fee for league? Am I being crazy here or what?
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We do not pay a green fee. But where I play at Bill's Place the APA players only come in and play on league night. I never see them come in on other days to practice and etc.. They just want FREE pool. This is a new pool room and struggling a little to keep the doors open. I think there Should be a green fee. Players are not buying that much food or drinks. Why would a pool room have to lose table time just because the league plays there? I would gladly pay an extra dollar or two to help my local pool room stay in business. It's one of the nicest and cleanest place within 25 miles. Everyone should support their local pool rooms..Ron Atchley level 6
 
Depends, depends, depends. In a league with teams playing out of bars or bars/halls green fees are ridiculous. The bars are promoting themselves and each other. They should be laying on finger food and giving the players deals on drinks (happy hour all night, a certain % off the bill, or a promo on a particular beer and wine and on shots). If the league doesn’t work for the bar then it doesn’t work and they opt out next season.

If it’s a league played in the same multi-table venue each week then it’s a different story. It’s a service for people who already play pool in some shape or form and want to do it on a regular social but competitive basis. Green fees become acceptable, albeit not necesssary if not having them brings more business than having them does.

It also depends heavily on location. Lots of bars with pool tables and active players in a city, all within walking distance from each other is a world away from the only pool table in nowhere, and everything in between.
 
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A league works best when both the venues and the players are getting something out of it. Yep, I know that’s obvious but it boils down to the venues giving and the participants paying. “Build it and they will come” springs to mind.
 
Why not? Potential customers come in all spectrum. It would be worthwhile recognize which customers are profitable, which ones keep the business afloat, and which ones don't spend money.

When pool was more popular, I'm sure it was easier to run a business. Nowadays, you have to be super savvy, and I don't blame people who have to close shop or go into an easier line of business.

Paul Schofield said:
If there are curious souls out there thinking about venturing into the pool business, I hope they don't bump into this thread.
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Never paid a green fee for league.

I have for a couple different tournaments; $1 and $3. Allows us to play without jacking quarters into the tables all night.

At the end of the day though, a buck is nothing. I'd pay it and not think about it for a second. If you can't afford $4/month or whatever to play, then you need a better job. Or manage your finances better than some HS kid.
 
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