Banking The CTE Way On A Diamond Table

[lfigueroa]

Do you honestly feel that you play as good now as you did when you were younger? If you say YES, you would be lying! NOBODY does. Not Efren, not Sigel, not Varner, not Buddy Hall...NOBODY at a certain age.

Stan is NOT a young person with young eyes, or young anything. He's older than you are. What he did and is doing now at his age is INCREDIBLE! Screw what he did when he was young because he no longer is.

His game and skill level now is a direct by product of learning, refining, and using CTE whether you like it or not. It has rejuvenated and extended his pool playing years to a level that few men have at his age or younger.

No of course not -- I'm playing better now than I've ever played in spite of bad knees and cataracts.

However, Stan, like the rest of us, plays based upon the foundation of decades of playing. I was in Mexico recently and played in a 3C tournament there and could barely see the edge of the balls 10 feet away. BUT my experience told me were the edges were and I did OK.

Lou Figueroa

 

[lfigueroa]

#5 checking in. :grin:

Let's say Spider is right. Stan's 60+ year love affair with banks has nothing to do with his ability to run 12 banks in a row. Stan used CTE to pocket those balls (with an extremely well disguised pivot, I might add). The inference that Spider wants to draw is that CTE is responsible for the banking success, not Stan, per se.

What can we predict from the above? Well, it seems that anybody well versed in CTE Pro1 should also be capable of running 12 in a row, even someone who has never played banks at all. Why didn't Spider post a video of himself running 12 banks? Other names that quickly come to mind are cookie and mohrt.

How 'bout it guys?

(Oh, and a number of those banks were made with significant amounts of english, which I thought was something a guy playing with feel might do).

Exactly.

That's the direct line you can draw from what Spider is posting -- that the system is the thing and if you learn the system you will be able to approach Stan's performance, but if you use something else you cannot do it. That's the basis of his challenge to the board, the premise of which is deeply flawed.

Lou Figueroa

 

[Patrick Johnson]

Exactly.

That's the direct line you can draw from what Spider is posting -- that the system is the thing and if you learn the system you will be able to approach Stan's performance, but if you use something else you cannot do it. That's the basis of his challenge to the board, the premise of which is deeply flawed.

Lou Figueroa

And the motive is equally clear (and typical) - to generate the same old arguments.

But it's everybody else who's obsessed...

pj
chgo

 

[straightline]

I see a guy hu bank gud. I also see a layout with everything a foot off the rail and positioned conveniently.

I don't see any system at work other than a bunch of ducks laying there and not all of 'em went gud.
You could have called this "Dead Bank Drill"

and a two railer that took some memory.

 

[SpiderWebComm]

Sorry, I don't believe he used it.
Just experience and imaginary mirrored pocket.

You probably also believe Earth left it's orbit around the sun and is now zooming through the universe to places unknown. Nobody in the know about CTE and Stan cares what you believe Joey. You're so far off base it's absurd. He uses CTE for everything.

Tiger Woods saying he plays much better with Nike clubs should be taken with a grain of salt .

You're still clueless. Tiger Woods has been playing with Taylormade clubs for years now. Nike stopped making golf clubs a long time ago.
Nobody has ever seen you playing in CA for money or anything. Where do you play?

 

[SpiderWebComm]

#5 checking in. :grin:

Yep, the #5 Knocker and CTE Hater has arrived in all his glory. Hail, Hail, the Gangs All Here!

Let's say Spider is right. Stan's 60+ year love affair with banks has nothing to do with his ability to run 12 banks in a row. Stan used CTE to pocket those balls (with an extremely well disguised pivot, I might add). The inference that Spider wants to draw is that CTE is responsible for the banking success, not Stan, per se.

Nope! It's BOTH.

What can we predict from the above? Well, it seems that anybody well versed in CTE Pro1 should also be capable of running 12 in a row, even someone who has never played banks at all. Why didn't Spider post a video of himself running 12 banks? Other names that quickly come to mind are cookie and mohrt.

How about you posting a video running any amount of banks with FEEL? It took 60+ years of playing pool to have this eye opening revelation last week that banks can actually be calculated and made by the DIAMOND system on the table and it takes away from the guesswork. BRILLIANT! A late bloomer has arrived. LOL

(Oh, and a number of those banks were made with significant amounts of english, which I thought was something a guy playing with feel might do).

LMAO! What a joke. It was an experienced player using ENGLISH
to get position as good as he could to set himself up for the next bank shot...and the next bank...and the next bank...and the next bank...and the next bank...and the next bank...and the next bank...and the next bank...and the next bank...and the next bank...and the next bank. (I think that's 11 after his first one)

Something you have never come close to experiencing in your entire life and never will. LOL

 

[SpiderWebComm]

No of course not -- I'm playing better now than I've ever played in spite of bad knees and cataracts.

Lou Figueroa

BULLCACA! I think some dementia has set in because you're delusional. Nobody plays better with cataracts and climbing up on 70 years of age.

Give Efren a call and all the other old pro players. They're all looking for this Fountain Of Youth.

 

[SpiderWebComm]

I see a guy hu bank gud. I also see a layout with everything a foot off the rail and positioned conveniently.

I don't see any system at work other than a bunch of ducks laying there and not all of 'em went gud.
You could have called this "Dead Bank Drill"

and a two railer that took some memory.

Then do it, Champ. Show how easy it was.

 

[SpiderWebComm]

Exactly.

That's the direct line you can draw from what Spider is posting -- that the system is the thing and if you learn the system you will be able to approach Stan's performance, but if you use something else you cannot do it. That's the basis of his challenge to the board, the premise of which is deeply flawed.

Lou Figueroa

Spoken like the man who has all the excuses in the world and no set of balls of his own to do it HIS WAY to prove one doesn't need CTE.

Go ahead Lou, show the world what it takes with your method.

 

[SpiderWebComm]

Well, lets see what the five CTE hating, knocking, whiners can come up with next. A man banks 12 called balls and it's because he started banking and learning it when he was 8 years old and has spent over 60 years continuing to do it since it's his FAVORITE game.

He should be able to do it regardless of his age even if he uses CTE. (which he doesn't according to the haters)

Will they get on the table and attempt to see just how difficult it is? You can bet your sweet arse the answer to that is a resounding NO!

Well, how about something ANYONE can do who wasn't brought up at an early age with banks?

Lets see...maybe 15 ball rotation. Yeah, that sounds good. All you have to do is go from 1-15 and knock 'em in the pocket. Who wants to give it a try? My guess is it's going to be the same FAB 5
bad mouthing and making excuses.

Here it is, done all with CTE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBRPG4UMxTc&list=UUW8lTFYIYGN2AjHKN23M-RQ&index=99&t=0s

 

[straightline]

Then do it, Champ. Show how easy it was.

I'm not the one needs to prove anything. Why aren't you demonstrating how CTE can determine any angle by uh, what, quantum entanglement?

 

[SpiderWebComm]

I'm not the one needs to prove anything. Why aren't you demonstrating how CTE can determine any angle by uh, what, quantum entanglement?

The least you can do is prove you know what end of the cue to hold and hit the ball with in a video. Some of the stuff you bring up sounds like you're fairly clueless and a hack player. Although you try to mask it with nonsensical lingo that makes sense to only you.

Demonstrating how CTE can determine any angle is definitely discussed in the book and the Truth Series videos. It's Stan's responsibility, not mine.

Too cheap to buy the book? No problem...it's all for free on the videos. How's that for a deal.

 

[lfigueroa]

Do you honestly feel that you play as good now as you did when you were younger? If you say YES, you would be lying! NOBODY does. Not Efren, not Sigel, not Varner, not Buddy Hall...NOBODY at a certain age.

Stan is NOT a young person with young eyes, or young anything. He's older than you are. What he did and is doing now at his age is INCREDIBLE! Screw what he did when he was young because he no longer is.

His game and skill level now is a direct by product of learning, refining, and using CTE whether you like it or not. It has rejuvenated and extended his pool playing years to a level that few men have at his age or younger.

I have just recently said I play way better now than I did at anytime previously in my life.

My current self could give my younger self a significant spot at any game.

In my approach to playing pool I have always been willing to dismantle what I'm doing and change it in the search for improvement. Sometimes, perhaps most times, that doesn't work out so good, but occasionally it does and when it does I build on those experiences.

Undoubtably, there are players, perhaps the majority, whose skills decline with age but I'm not one of those guys and Stan isn't either. And I suspect that comes from constantly studying the game, albeit in our own different ways. In his case it likely stems from delving into his system, which has maintained his focus and led to sustained, if not improved play.

The truth is most players just play the way they play with little introspection and self awareness. But that's not everybody.

Lou Figueroa

 

[lfigueroa]

BULLCACA! I think some dementia has set in because you're delusional. Nobody plays better with cataracts and climbing up on 70 years of age.

Give Efren a call and all the other old pro players. They're all looking for this Fountain Of Youth.

I have no reason to lie.

Perhaps you should keep in mind that I never played at pro player speed. I went to school, worked, had a career, and even laid off the game for a ten year stretch. So there was always plenty of room for improvement and I would say the same is true for most players -- the opportunity to improve is always there.

Now, if you're an Efren, or any other player in contention for GOAT, the ceiling for what you can accomplish is a tad closer. Not to mention all the other great players have learned from you, incorporated what they've learned, and are therefore starting from a higher plateau.

Lou Figueroa

 

[lfigueroa]

Spoken like the man who has all the excuses in the world and no set of balls of his own to do it HIS WAY to prove one doesn't need CTE.

Go ahead Lou, show the world what it takes with your method.

Why?

Because you keep demanding it, lol.

Lou Figueroa

 

[lfigueroa]

Well, lets see what the five CTE hating, knocking, whiners can come up with next. A man banks 12 called balls and it's because he started banking and learning it when he was 8 years old and has spent over 60 years continuing to do it since it's his FAVORITE game.

He should be able to do it regardless of his age even if he uses CTE. (which he doesn't according to the haters)

Will they get on the table and attempt to see just how difficult it is? You can bet your sweet arse the answer to that is a resounding NO!

Well, how about something ANYONE can do who wasn't brought up at an early age with banks?

Lets see...maybe 15 ball rotation. Yeah, that sounds good. All you have to do is go from 1-15 and knock 'em in the pocket. Who wants to give it a try? My guess is it's going to be the same FAB 5
bad mouthing and making excuses.

Here it is, done all with CTE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBRPG4UMxTc&list=UUW8lTFYIYGN2AjHKN23M-RQ&index=99&t=0s

OK, so it's tough -- happy?

Lou Figueroa
whoopee

 

[straightline]

The least you can do is prove you know what end of the cue to hold and hit the ball with in a video. Some of the stuff you bring up sounds like you're fairly clueless and a hack player. Although you try to mask it with nonsensical lingo that makes sense to only you.

Demonstrating how CTE can determine any angle is definitely discussed in the book and the Truth Series videos. It's Stan's responsibility, not mine.

Too cheap to buy the book? No problem...it's all for free on the videos. How's that for a deal.

It's your contention. The burden of proof is on you. So far all you got is insults.

As far as learning from those videos, CTE or otherwise, all they demonstrate are the highest percentage shots that anyone can make. I don't have the time or sense of amusement to be strung along. I'd rather continue developing and perfecting what I already know.

 

[cookie man]

Throw 15 balls out on the table and start wherever you wish with a one rail or more bank. If you can run all 15, more power to you. Or match what is on the video if you can.

No OB is preset against the rail with a preset CB that's been tested to be dead in.

Use whatever works best for you whether it's "feel" or a banking system. You could use CTE as done by the Pro instructor who kind of knows a little about CTE.

Video yourself banking however many you can and post it. No virtual pool allowed, only a real human with some know how and nerve.

I might even croak on the spot if someone stepped up to the plate and ran the table so it would be a great way to get rid of me.

No knocking is needed. Just do it or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71ZbmUWs3G0&list=UUW8lTFYIYGN2AjHKN23M-RQ&index=100&t=0s

Pretty impressive. I don't care who you are or where you did it. Great shooting Stan.

 

[cookie man]

Eddie "The Knoxville Bear" Taylor said he ran all 15 five times and ran 12 or 13 hundreds of times.

Then of course there's the $74 he made at $2 a bank, running 37 without a miss. He said it all came natural to him (read: no aiming system).

Lou Figueroa

Mentioning Eddie Taylor and comparing him to Stan is quite the compliment to Stan.

 

[cookie man]

Sorry, I don't believe he used it.
Just experience and imaginary mirrored pocket.

Tiger Woods saying he plays much better with Nike clubs should be taken with a grain of salt .

This from a guy that doesn't believe Bustemonte pivots,lol.