Has your local pool hall (here in the US) opened back up yet?
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I always take precautions. I wear either a N95 mask or surgical mask when I go to the grocery store. I also use nitrile gloves and clear glasses. I use alcohol based hand sanitizers when I’m finished. I wipe down the groceries, then my wife wipes them down. Shoes stay outside and clothes get washed immediately and I get cleaned up also. We have a quarantine section in the house for mail and other stuff.
I’ve had to fly several times. I try and stay as far away from passengers as I can. After closing the door we use hand sanitizer before starting the engines and after every time we leave our seat. My copilot is sitting only two feet from me and he does the same. I’m trying to ride my bicycle five times a week. I use the least traveled routes I know. The most contact I run into is always at the grocery store, which would be more contact that I would get at the pool hall.
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That's nice.
Just sounds a little different than what you posted earlier:
Lou Figueroa
I added another paragraph to my story. But I’m not staying locked in my house
I don't think he said believed it was the case, just some possible reasons.
The WHO mostly. Our CDC is some Archaic organization that’s badly in need of overhaul, pretty much like most of our government.
Infectious disease expert Michael Osterholm, has been warning for 15 years about the possibility of a global pandemic.
Yesterday he said in an interview that presently we're "only in the second inning of a nine-inning contest" with the possibility of as many as 800,000 deaths or more in the US over the next 18 months.
"As we learn more about the transmission of this virus, it's very clear that it is at least, if not more, infectious than even what the world experienced in the historic pandemic influenza of 1918. And I'm convinced that this pandemic is following what we experienced in 1918."
Worth reading his informed reasons for these conclusions and predictions based on well-described governmental shortcomings:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/21/opinions/bergen-osterholm-interview-two-opinion/index.html
Arnaldo
Yesterday he said in an interview that presently we're "only in the second inning of a nine-inning contest" with the possibility of as many as 800,000 deaths or more in the US over the next 18 months.
"As we learn more about the transmission of this virus, it's very clear that it is at least, if not more, infectious than even what the world experienced in the historic pandemic influenza of 1918. And I'm convinced that this pandemic is following what we experienced in 1918."
Worth reading his informed reasons for these conclusions and predictions based on well-described governmental shortcomings:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/21/opinions/bergen-osterholm-interview-two-opinion/index.html
Arnaldo
800,000 deaths. That’s total BS, not based on any facts whatsoever.
It really wasn't hard to fathom it a likely possibility, given the way travel has become so easy...and it was at least a 15 yr window!
While I agree we are likely far from ready to return to pre-covid life, I would also acknowledge there is a lot tbd...and a lot we- the world's occupants- can do/ not do to move the end point around.
While I agree we are likely far from ready to return to pre-covid life, I would also acknowledge there is a lot tbd...and a lot we- the world's occupants- can do/ not do to move the end point around.
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Cartoons. That's about your speed, unsurprisingly.
Again, there are far too many things left undetermined at this point to pick a number of any measure that woul have any reasonable probability of accuracy.
What is reasonable at this time is an abundance of caution for yourself and others.
And your tale about visiting four stores for flour and picking up a dime on the street? Like a friggin horror movie where a stupid man lives his life, makes something respectable of himself and then dies coz he got infected picking up a fukcing dime that some corona-infected joker pulled out his ass and left for fate to deliver...
I've said it before: I would never wish another to get infected. I would only wish others to act with an abundance of caution, until science and medicine provide useful guidance.
The problem is that like any forecasting, business budgeting as an easy example, it’s dependent on a number of assumptions. I can make any budget/forecast make sense simply by the assumptions I use.
That don’t make it so though... :wink:
So when you get it right do you get reward for a job well done? Would think doing business forecasting, it like going to the horse track. You can read what the expert handicapper say, crunch information available. Place your bet, and hopefully be right most of the time. But no one know for sure who will win any race.
Spraying won't matter. Most pool halls have old moldy carpet that never gets cleaned. It is full of critters and mites and stale beer and coke.
COVID-19 is proven to be easily transferred person to person.
People can walk around weeks not even knowing they are infected.
During that same period, any infected person will infect numerous others.
And let’s keep in mind a principle that is so overlooked by most people.
You did not have to actually cause the accident to find yourself involved in one.
Someone else’s decision about what seems safe and reasonable becomes yours
and mine whenever those folks are in any proximity of us even when we all wear
protective masks. The crude mortaility rate for CV is 3-4% vs. seasonal flu’s .1%.
So the decisions made by others to not strictly adhere to shelter in place guidelines,
and especially states that remove or loosen this early before satisfying all the specified
criteria, translate into posing needless risks when we have come so far already. Caving
in now is just foolhardy and this is going to result in many more thousands of our fellow
Americans needlessly dying from not having the spine to stand tall and finish this mission.
The states opening early are going to extend the presence of COVID-19 and reintroduce
the return of widespread infections in areas that have flattened & bent the infection curve.
Adjacent states have no say in the actions of these state governors but regardless, must face
the resultant consequences which translates into a resurgence in new COVID-19 infections.
People can walk around weeks not even knowing they are infected.
During that same period, any infected person will infect numerous others.
And let’s keep in mind a principle that is so overlooked by most people.
You did not have to actually cause the accident to find yourself involved in one.
Someone else’s decision about what seems safe and reasonable becomes yours
and mine whenever those folks are in any proximity of us even when we all wear
protective masks. The crude mortaility rate for CV is 3-4% vs. seasonal flu’s .1%.
So the decisions made by others to not strictly adhere to shelter in place guidelines,
and especially states that remove or loosen this early before satisfying all the specified
criteria, translate into posing needless risks when we have come so far already. Caving
in now is just foolhardy and this is going to result in many more thousands of our fellow
Americans needlessly dying from not having the spine to stand tall and finish this mission.
The states opening early are going to extend the presence of COVID-19 and reintroduce
the return of widespread infections in areas that have flattened & bent the infection curve.
Adjacent states have no say in the actions of these state governors but regardless, must face
the resultant consequences which translates into a resurgence in new COVID-19 infections.
middleofnowhere
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We don't yet know the real ramifications of the disease yet. Only yesterday it came out that a lot of cases involving younger people are having blood clots and strokes as a result of the virus. The way it attacks the lungs I would think people will die as a result maybe even months or years later as a direct result of having the virus.
The facts are, we would be in fact heading toward those numbers if not for all the steps being taken now. Now figure in that people are stupid and will get tired of following any rules. I have no confidence in the American people to ever do the right thing.
For example smoking. Humans are for the most part self destructive. They are the only animal that will knowingly do things not in their own best interest. The virus will in fact, baring a really good treatment or vaccine, begin to kill in those numbers.
What is fooling people at the moment is it is killing slowly number wise, so they think they will be protected by the odds of getting it. However slowly, those odds will begin change as people stop being careful. You can already see it now. I was never really one of those prepper guys but my mind has changed. You better damn well be preparing to take care of yourself and your family on your own.
Early on I saw something that really disturbed me. In Miami they were giving out the forms for unemployment. People were asked to line up and they would be able to get the forms. A cop that was there thinking he would help took a stack of forms and was going to go down the line so people would not have to wait so long. They came out of line and in a few seconds had him surrounded as they began to fight for the forms.
A few days ago we were laying in bed and my wife asked me to teach her how to shoot. I could tell from the way she said it it had been on her mind. She has shot in the past and handled guns but she wants to know how to handle all the guns not just revolvers. Just using my own wife as an example, she is scared, I have to think she is not that unusual, a lot of people are scared right now.
middleofnowhere
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You do know the Virus can’t live in stale beer
Why not? They don't know what they don't know. On one of the cruse ships they were cleaning up they found virus in rooms that had not been occupied in 17 days. So much for knowing how long it lasts on some surfaces.
heart disease and cancer...two of the biggest killers of humans and both largely self-inflicted, through lifestyle choices.
Makes you wonder whose team we're on sometimes, doesn't it?
I have a neighbor who was in London recently, returned and was hospitalized as a result of a positive covid-19 dx. He was released a couple weeks ago and remains unable to resume life as he knew it pre-covid-19, due to damage done to his body. I don't know if it is permanent or not.
Makes you wonder whose team we're on sometimes, doesn't it?
I have a neighbor who was in London recently, returned and was hospitalized as a result of a positive covid-19 dx. He was released a couple weeks ago and remains unable to resume life as he knew it pre-covid-19, due to damage done to his body. I don't know if it is permanent or not.