How much louder is a break cue than using a regular cue for breaking?

To me, the sound of a phenolic tip hitting the CB on a break is the same loudness as the CB hitting the rack.

Here’s me breaking with a phenolic tip. And for what it’s worth, I’ve ditched the phenolic break cue for another break cue with hard tip.

 
Bob Jewett said:
Get a new cue ball. Carefully inspect the polished surface. Shoot a bunch of hard shots with it. You will see impressions of the chalk grit in the surface of the ball making it scuffed. Leather tips don't do that nearly as much.

Maybe we need to go back to using a special sacrificial cue ball for breaking. Or enforce the ban on phenolic tips which is already in the equipment specs.
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Rules mean nothing if not enforced as you say. Many things should change in pool. Get rid of the jump cue ( I own one). 2 cues at the table. Rotating breaks. Etc etc etc.


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justnum said:
If it comes a to a break shot

you can practice how you hit the rack

or how your mechanics working during the power break

I practice my break mechanics going off the back rail and with the ability to measure break speed have an idea for what is giving me power as oppose to just feel for it. Emulating other pros with different body types can cause problems.

I idea of training a high speed break will hopefully give me two gears of control precision. One for pocketing and one for breaking.
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Did you actually read the question? With all your posts, it does not seem you have the experience or knowledge to give advice, I'd wait a few more years before posting.
 
My table is far from the sleepers, but when I play at night it is not games where I am power breaking.

If you play 9/10b, try playing with all 15 balls and toss them out on the table with no clusters. See how far you can go with ball in paw to start.

If 15 is too hard, reduce the amount of balls you start with.
 
Bob Jewett said:
Maybe we need to go back to using a special sacrificial cue ball for breaking. Or enforce the ban on phenolic tips which is already in the equipment specs.
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I actually use a sacrificial CB when playing the ghost... Figure I have BIH anyway, so why beat on my new Duramith.

It wasn't until I had the opportunity to play with a brand spank'n new CB that I noticed my phenolic break tip did indeed damage the CB.
 
On a somewhat related topic...

I have been using the phenolic tip on my cyclop cue ball and unlike the aramith, it does not show signs of trauma.

Only been a couple days of the abuse thus far, but I don't believe any single mark is the result of cumulative trauma...
 
Black-Balled said:
On a somewhat related topic...

I have been using the phenolic tip on my cyclop cue ball and unlike the aramith, it does not show signs of trauma.

Only been a couple days of the abuse thus far, but I don't believe any single mark is the result of cumulative trauma...
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Only cue balls I see get those half moon or smiles are the knock off measles balls. Or cheap cue balls in general.


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The phenolic tip to cue ball contact hit is louder than a leather tip hit; the ball to ball hit isn't louder until you get better at breaking with the phenolic and increase your speed and accuracy. Sound is different depending on the tip/ferrule/shaft configuration.
 
NYCnoob99 said:
The missus can (sometimes) tolerate me breaking with one of my house cues I keep around for friends when they come over, but I am worried that if I get a proper break cue with a phenolic tip it will be much louder. Can those of you with break cues please let me know? I play at home, not in a pool hall, at least most of the time, which is why noise is a concern.

Thanks
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Most of the pros seem to break at less than warp speed, at least in 9 ball. Moderate speed gives more control and they have the break down to a science (I wish I did). I put a Samsara tip on my Predator BK II.
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Samsara True Break Jump Tip

Samsara Break jump tip is a very hard pool cue and break cue tip. you can be worry free now about if you tip is legal in your league.
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At a given cue ball speed more noise comes from contact with the rack so to me tips make no difference in sound. I've had friends complain about volume racking with a Delta Elite aluminum rack. I guess they didn't grow up around open pipe motorcycles.
 
NYCnoob99 said:
The missus can (sometimes) tolerate me breaking with one of my house cues I keep around for friends when they come over, but I am worried that if I get a proper break cue with a phenolic tip it will be much louder. Can those of you with break cues please let me know? I play at home, not in a pool hall, at least most of the time, which is why noise is a concern.

Thanks
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Just considering the noise at the tip, it's about 5-6 db difference right at the table. In terms of loudness from various distances, the sound goes down considerably as you move away, from almost 110db at the table, to under 80db about 15 feet away [closed door]. Overall, I don't think it makes that much difference in terms of noise, but your situation may be different and a few db may be meaningful.

Taom 2.0 - Avg 98.2 db
Phenolic - Avg 95.2 db
Bulletproof - Avg 94.9
Elkmaster - Avg 93.9
Kamui Clear Black Soft - Avg 92.7 db

[Tip Loudness]

[Break Loudness]

-td
 
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