Matchroom Predator Championship League Pool

The way the format goes it does not matter if you win 6 out of 6 in the round-robin, so you better off saving energy....winning 6 out of 6 is the same as winning 3 out of 6, just make it in the top 4 thats all that matters, which to me as I stated earlier in this thread is illogical.
.;.. and here it's exactly the same as a hockey team or basketball team trying to place high in the regular season. It's not just to get in the playoffs, it's also to hedge your bets that you'll play worse as time goes on, or other teams will play better.

I think the best strategy is to try your best, and not try to place in the middle and coast. Also, you have to play six matches anyway, so i don't see how winning three and saving energy works.
 
Niels is most consistent (1 group win, 1 runner up and 2 semifinals) over 4 days and most prizemoney $8.5K
David Alcaide is most impressive in single day winning all his 8 matches to win group
Albin has not won group (2 finals +1 semi only) but has won 2nd most money ($6K) more than group winners Melling, Alcaide and Kaci

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I don't understand this.

If you lose one match in the semis, you're not out, you take your prize money and move on to the next group with a chance to win more.

There's a financial advantage to placing high in the round robin. With such short matches, any one of these players could beat any other. I was struck by the number of hill-hill matches (Tkach went hill-hill against Roberto Gomez and Naoyuki Oi). And the number of 'upsets' where the stronger player was defeated by someone weaker. (Albin Ouschan during the first couple of days.)

Groups 1-7
1 $4000
2 $2000
3 $1250
4 $1250
5 $900
6 $700

Winner's group
1 $5000
2 $2500
3 $2000
4 $2000
5 $1500
6 $1250
7 $1000
The difference between you and I, is that you think generally about money online, while I think about winning.

Pro's always thinks about winning, it has prestige to it, they don't want to lose to another player as everyone thinks they're the best in the world, evidently, Albin always shows frustration as he loses or misses. That's what I am talking about here! for me I also don't care about money, I always just want to win.

So if someone in the bracket gets a 6 wins out of 6, then moves to the semi's and win, then loses in the final! you will see him mad, its not about money to him, he wants to be one of those winners of each group. You can see it in the face of everyone who lost a final. So with all this in mind go read back my previous post, it will make more sense to you hopefully.

or TL;DR, if a guy gets 6 out 6 wins in the bracket, then he should be placed the #1 winner and put into the winner's group immedietly as one of the pro's mentioned in a commentry. It is really illogical to take the top 4 then do a semis and finals yet again! a guy with 6 out of 6 wins moving to the semi's then only losing does not make sense. Or to put the other way, a guy with 3 out of 6 wins who got top 4 in brackets, then wins the day also doesn't make sense.

EDIT: But yes if I would think of money then I'l agree 100% with you, but its hard to believe any pro would do the intentional loss for money. They cannot do this because pool is unpredictable and they must take every chance of going to the final winner's day.
 
The difference between you and I, is that you think generally about money online, while I think about winning.

Pro's always thinks about winning, it has prestige to it, they don't want to lose to another player as everyone thinks they're the best in the world, evidently, Albin always shows frustration as he loses or misses. That's what I am talking about here! for me I also don't care about money, I always just want to win.

So if someone in the bracket gets a 6 wins out of 6, then moves to the semi's and win, then loses in the final! you will see him mad, its not about money to him, he wants to be one of those winners of each group. You can see it in the face of everyone who lost a final. So with all this in mind go read back my previous post, it will make more sense to you hopefully.

or TL;DR, if a guy gets 6 out 6 wins in the bracket, then he should be placed the #1 winner and put into the winner's group immedietly as one of the pro's mentioned in a commentry. It is really illogical to take the top 4 then do a semis and finals yet again! a guy with 6 out of 6 wins moving to the semi's then only losing does not make sense. Or to put the other way, a guy with 3 out of 6 wins who got top 4 in brackets, then wins the day also doesn't make sense.

EDIT: But yes if I would think of money then I'l agree 100% with you, but its hard to believe any pro would do the intentional loss for money. They cannot do this because pool is unpredictable and they must take every chance of going to the final winner's day.
It doesn't have anything to do with the money winnings. The person who advances furthest is the winner. Maybe that person wins the first and last sets of matches. Maybe that person has to grind their way through six days of 12 hours.

If i understand it right, you're argument is that the person who wins 6 out of 6 should automatically advance. (That's only happened once during the five stages here). I can see that argument, except these are such short races and these players are so evenly matched that there's a fair bit of luck involved. I'd argue that the top player after the round robin isn't necessarily the best player, maybe just the luckiest.

The round robin eliminates three players. Then a single-elimination match determines the winner.

It could just as easily be the top finisher is first etc., and there's a playoff between players who tied in the round robin. Maybe a second round robin among the four top finishers would work?

Maybe the single-elimination playoff after the round robin is a bit of a gimmick, but it does make the tournament more interesting It gives a player who's getting hotter as the day progresses to come from behind, like Melling did. It seems to have worked well with snooker.

And i didn't suggest that anyone should intentionally lose. I think there is such an element of luck that anything other than a full effort is dangerous. I thought you suggested that a player could just win 3 out of six and then take it easy to pace themselves.
 
or TL;DR, if a guy gets 6 out 6 wins in the bracket, then he should be placed the #1 winner and put into the winner's group immedietly as one of the pro's mentioned in a commentry. It is really illogical to take the top 4 then do a semis and finals yet again! a guy with 6 out of 6 wins moving to the semi's then only losing does not make sense. Or to put the other way, a guy with 3 out of 6 wins who got top 4 in brackets, then wins the day also doesn't make sense.
Rethinking your position, i think i see your argument is that the person who wins the round robin should automatically advance. Rather than the way they've set it up, that the round robin just determines which players make the play off. This way, it's just like hockey or basketball or soccer. Regular season and then conference playoffs, followed by a 7-way grand final.
 
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I like this event more and more. The women added some spice to the event. The scenery of the event is very visually appealing. The format breeds all these little glory moments. And for not having an audience, it draws me in more than the Mosconi Cup did. It makes me realize how much I disliked the fake audience cheer track in the MC.
 
so of the first five days, only Alcaide on day 3 led the round robin and then won the playoff.

Otherwise twice it was the fourth place finisher in the round robin that won the playoff, and twice it was the second place finisher in the round robin.

Ouschan must be getting frustrated, having won the round robin portion twice but then finished 3rd/4th both times.
 
so of the first five days, only Alcaide on day 3 led the round robin and then won the playoff.

Otherwise twice it was the fourth place finisher in the round robin that won the playoff, and twice it was the second place finisher in the round robin.

Ouschan must be getting frustrated, having won the round robin portion twice but then finished 3rd/4th both times.
So far he’s won more than Melling but I imagine that’s not a lot of solace.
 
What a group final match Oi and Gomez had. Not perfect, but that made it more interesting. All three playoff matches went hill-hill.
 
What a group final match Oi and Gomez had. Not perfect, but that made it more interesting. All three playoff matches went hill-hill.

naoyuki is one of those easy to underestimate players, because of his sometimes reckless play and his antics. but fargorate 802 really tells the story
 
A little drama in Roberto Gomez vs. Albin Ouschan. Albin played safe, Roberto had a kick on the 3 near a rail and the 7, looked like he got it but the ref, standing on the other side of the table, called a foul, saying it hit the 7 first. Albin seemed to agree, Roberto asked if they could review video, but it seems they said the ref’s call is final.
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A little drama in Roberto Gomez vs. Albin Ouschan. Albin played safe, Roberto had a kick on the 3 near a rail and the 7, looked like he got it but the ref, standing on the other side of the table, called a foul, saying it hit the 7 first. Albin seemed to agree, Roberto asked if they could review video, but it seems they said the ref’s call is final.View attachment 590076
Watching this in real time, it sure looked like a good hit to me and if it wasn't definitive it was a foul, I believe should have went to the shooter. It seems the refs in this event are in position most of the time, but the ref must have had a brain fart on this one for not getting in better position on one of the few shots in the match where it was very predictable that it would be a close hit.
 
I've been waiting for Kazakis to be honest, he seems to be playing well! he changed to Revo, yet another revo player who now plays better than before which is interesting.

So lets be honest, Albin is using revo and he's playing the best with the worst luck.
Also Kaci changed to Revo also recently nearly with the previous mosconi, also he is playing really well!
David Alcaide also just recently switched to Revo probably just before the tournament, the adjustment seems to be pretty quick as he's playing solid and consistant.

I'm gonna be honest this Revo thing is real, I've tried it and its absolutely insane shaft.
 
Watching this in real time, it sure looked like a good hit to me and if it wasn't definitive it was a foul, I believe should have went to the shooter. It seems the refs in this event are in position most of the time, but the ref must have had a brain fart on this one for not getting in better position on one of the few shots in the match where it was very predictable that it would be a close hit.
It’s the same ref who racked the 9-ball on the corner for Kelly Fisher a couple days ago...
 
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