Who promotes billiards better pro men or pro women?

justnum

justnum

Billiards Improvement Research Projects Associate
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Promoting the billiard sport is the tradition that will continue on regardless of who is at the helm.

The female pros are just better at promoting the sport to the whole society.
The male pros are very good at attracting speculators to the sport.

The females have a better ability to spread to sport to new players.
The males are good at keeping existing fans happy with lots of events.

Pool has been slowly fading and it can end quietly or it can try to make some noise.
As of late only the WPBA had the most consistent broadcasts targeted at a general audience.
 
justnum said:
The female pros are just better at promoting the sport to the whole society.
The male pros are very good at attracting speculators to the sport.
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Males, at home watching TV, will watch female players more readily than male players.

justnum said:
The females have a better ability to spread to sport to new players.
The males are good at keeping existing fans happy with lots of events.
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But there are NOT lots of events--even compared with only 5 years ago.

justnum said:
Pool has been slowly fading and it can end quietly or it can try to make some noise.
As of late only the WPBA had the most consistent broadcasts targeted at a general audience.
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Because the viewership was more ready to watch pretty girls playing pool.
 
MitchAlsup said:
Males, at home watching TV, will watch female players more readily than male players.


But there are NOT lots of events--even compared with only 5 years ago.


Because the viewership was more ready to watch pretty girls playing pool.
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Those women helped promote a style of fashion and dress that impacted woman around the globe.
The number of female players today from various parts of the world has multiplied greatly, and its directly due to the WPBA.

With the male players they have always promoted a culture of men know best.

The male players are gatekeepers that keep the door closed. While the women are the ushers of future generations, they did that and it worked.
 
logical said:
Some people have the ability to speak volumes and make a point with very few words.

Others the complete opposite .


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Typical of the male behavior in pro pool. You make one comment or produce one event a year, and then they go missing.

The WPBA provided years of consistent programming targeted for a general audience.

Black Widow is famous at the international level more so than the male players, she is a living legend.

She changed the cultural landscape for Asian women. Allison Fisher is the Queen for the Euro crowd.

The next great superstar in billiards, may never reach those heights of fame but can inspire the same if not more women.

Why can't you support women in pool?

The money spent to gain new male fans is not attracting what it did that one time with that one movie, especially in USA.
 
logical said:
Some people have the ability to speak volumes and make a point with very few words.

Others the complete opposite .


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It is bordering on amazing how some idiot can compile so many words is a manner that suggest a coherent thought, when in reality they say nothing of substance.

Such an idiot could only be employed in academia.
 
justnum said:
If you were alive for both movies and saw the popularity of it in the pool community, then why did you let the fire get cold.
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I was alive when both came out.
The Hustler was a great movie in all respects.
The Color of Money was the pool version of "Django Unchained".
I started playing pool in 8th grade (coin op) 1967
My Dad bought a 8 footer in 1969
I played all the way through college 1977
Then I did not play again until 2006 mostly because I worked for a living and spend non-work hours working on my engineering.
So, I blame "life got in the way" routine.
In 2006 I moved to an area where I was within walking distance of a bar and the bar had pool tables.
I started playing again and in 2008 I bought a 8 footer and have been playing ever sense.

Unlike the players one sees in movies that try and take all your money, I almost never play for money, and I try to teach anyone who want to learn how to play the game (gratis). I actually got several girls to beat their BFs in a single 20 minute lesson.

It is not my fault the candle went out and nobody put in a new candle stick and lit it.
 
After watching Fedor, Albin and Dennis in a live zoom with Darren, its doubtful young male pool players will have a strong promotion game.

Darren is doing a great job, but it doesn't feel like the other players know how to promote.

Good luck to Darren, teaching promotion skills is a long term challenge.

Its like the younger make players don't know how to entertain or talk to future investors.
That is what promotions is about. Its fishing, use good bait.
 
justnum said:
After watching Fedor, Albin and Dennis in a live zoom with Darren, its doubtful young male pool players will have a strong promotion game.

Darren is doing a great job, but it doesn't feel like the other players know how to promote.

Good luck to Darren, teaching promotion skills is a long term challenge.

Its like the younger make players don't know how to entertain or talk to future investors.
That is what promotions is about. Its fishing, use good bait.
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How's the tube sock cue wrap business going?
 
HNTFSH said:
How's the tube sock cue wrap business going?
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Working on my movie script and plan to put that in as a prop.

Cue wrap business not profitable

Cue wrap concept for a joke or entertainment, still working it out.

There is interest, but it has to be done well. Thanks for remembering.

Outside this forum I have no life.
 
Black-Balled said:
It is bordering on amazing how some idiot can compile so many words is a manner that suggest a coherent thought, when in reality they say nothing of substance.

Such an idiot could only be employed in academia.
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It kind of takes any available fun out of it when he's too dense to know everyone thinks he's a complete tool and are just making fun of him.

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logical said:
It kind of takes any available fun out of it when he's too dense to know everyone thinks he's a complete tool and are just making fun of him.

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I'm thinking the 626 thread...similarities abound.
 
TV has shifted from a few channels and viewers take what they're given, to an enormous choice of media available on demand.

So the bar has got much higher for attracting viewers.

The quality of 'boxset' TV series now blows 'old' TV series out of the water (because you can do more if viewers don't have to wait a week between episodes and so forget the details and nuance, and because writers are now conscious of what people expect to happen, and avoid that).

Where does TV pool fit in? I don't think a billion tournaments a year, most rendered forgettable by the size of the whole, would have mass appeal.
For a tournament to have sense of occasion and importance, almost by definition it has to be a rare event.

But to make the leap forward in quality, the way 'boxsets' have.. if it's even possible, would require a big rethinking of what's in it for the viewer.

I don't know the answer, but getting viewers more invested in individuals, creating richer 'stories', making outcomes feel important, seem like the kind of thing that would be needed. If it's even possible.

On the other hand, in depth sports documentaries (that tell a richer story) don't exactly draw massive audiences.

I wonder how a fictional TV series set in a pool world would do.
 
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