You must be a miserable person if you continually subject yourself to things you don't like.
Developing a pool aptitude test
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middleofnowhere
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I think you missed the point of what I was saying I didn't say I don't like pool I'm I would say the exception to the average person as are you.
I started playing pool when I was probably 8 or 9 years old cuz my dad owned a hotel and there was a couple of 9 foot pool tables downstairs. We lived at the hotel and I was always down there playing cuz it was just there.
Turned out I was good at it and I could run a hundred balls when I was 16. It came easy to me and that's probably why I kept playing. Then I found the camaraderie of billiard rooms kind of fun. So it was an evolving process.
I also thought it was a pretty good business and I bought a pool room when I was 22 later adding a bar (had some legal loopholes to jump through that the previous owner had failed at) which turned it into a gold mine.
I was trying to objectively talk about it in a way like I said from a 10,000 foot height that the average person first exposed to pool would experience.
I can tell you from my experience I've owned three pool rooms many many people would come in for one reason or another obviously first Time players, they get on a table and not even play the time minimum.
You can watch them and easily see this was nothing to them. What's the old saying that the first thing you have to do to solve a problem is recognize there is a problem.
That was my point for the average first time player pool is boring it's not fun it's not even fun to watch so for the game to grow how do you overcome this. You don't do it by putting your head in the sand and pretending it doesn't exist.
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You do realize that the reason sports teams have potential team members take IQ tests is to make sure that the athlete they are about to sign a contract worth millions is to be sure they are capable of being coached, right??
If you had taken my aptitude test you would know what skills and techniques to learn and develop.
Before you entered my world you were nothing, you are nowhere right now. Your lost you need an aptitude test, you can self-assess and track your own progress.
People are unaware of how to appreciate billiards, much like everything else in life.
How many people know how to appreciate art just by looking at it? Very few most just pay money, but if you get the right direction you can learn not only how to appreciate it but also how to produce it.
The same goes for billiards, its an education issue.
Check out the PAT thats a better philosophy for bitter players. Its the Playing Ability Test, DrDave and Bob Jewett developed it.
I recommend it because you are presenting some negative thoughts. The PAT focuses more on performance, so you can have your thoughts but you have to be able to perform. People with low or high aptitudes can perform high on those assessments, its rote learning mostly.
Or take my BAT, Billiard Aptitude Test and then we can talk more, consider it like getting a military rating for your assignment beginner status. Right now your not even enlisted, talk to a recruiter, just message me.
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middleofnowhere
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You're making an assumption that people want to be educated. They don't want to come in and play pool like it's a job. In fact many of them would come in they don't even know what end of the table to rack the balls and almost resent it when somebody tries to help them.
In an interview I once equated the average person walking into a pool room, at about the same comfort level as someone walking in to an adult bookstore.
I think if I owned a room today there's a few things I would do differently to make it more comfortable for beginning players to take up the game.
Sort of like when you go to Vegas they have videos running in your room so you don't walk down into the casino and feel like an idiot it basically coaches you to everything that's going on.
Watching the players that are beginners, they're feeling that they're embarrassed out of place and don't have any idea what to do is so obvious. You have to solve that without embarrassing them.
I can't say any names but after attending some of the major pool events, I think pool needs additional ambassadors separate from pool players or promoters.
A specific billiard educational and promotional team.
Check out my BAT Billiard Aptitude test, I am promoting it to be that solution for your billiard player problems, pool hall problems and tournament event problems. I have decades of experience doing this and other open houses.
You are so clueless.
Your aptitude test is a fucking trash pile and barely related to the actual activity.
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P.S.- he probably wants responses via PM so he can say 'i received over 18 PMs regarding...'
What a tool.
P.S.- he probably wants responses via PM so he can say 'i received over 18 PMs regarding...'
What a tool.
Why do you think you know what pool needs? You can't even discern the correct your're/ yore/ your to use.
You don't have decades of success 'solving' problems for anyone other than a semester's-worth of captive customers. Who, in case you didn't notice, had effectively no choices or need to return to your classroom.
Lol. What he said.
He thinks designing a lesson plan is problem solving.
He could only be employed in academia. The business world has nearly 0 need for his ignorant self-indulgence.
And the pool world gives the last two and the breaks to the business world in terms of harsh environments.
My next ad will discuss understanding the wide variety of player rating systems from Fargo to WPA points ranking. It will be about misleading with rankings versus tournaments.
I have given lots of talks on corruption and rooting it out. In classified and non classified settings.
What I know is the pool world is shrinking.
And staying competitive in a world with more ways to enjoy free time is not easy.
I am not thinking anything. Its out there, you can be part of the solution or a barrier to the solution. This train is moving with or without you.
A- your ele-mental masterbation doesn't need our witness.
2) captive customers who likely found the comedy unfunny.
your a good forum poster to debate with
you know the heart of arguments
we are past letter grades
the future of pool is counting on it
You got picked on a lot as a youngster. Probably on every day they talked about your/ yore/ you're.
middleofnowhere
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It is not as academic as you may think. Ratings, playing the ghost and so on is not actual measurements of how you play.
Like Mike Tyson says "everyone has a plan till the first time they get hit". Playing another player who brings heat can be daunting.
It is the secret of the hustler and road player. It's the reason they can give the weight they are often ask for and easily beat them. Their game is not dependable under fire. Misses and mistakes are costly.
He won't understand...he'll just proceed ignorant and happy.
boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
I love pool, but for me, it's more about the self challenge and constantly learning and mastering parts of the game. Generally, I'll take up a hobby until I've mastered it, or mastered whatever I wanted to in said hobby, then I'll abandon it. Pool is the only thing that can draw me in and draw me back. I can take time off of pool, but I always return. It's such an incredibly difficult game and IMO that's what makes it a worthwhile pursuit. It's not for everybody. It's played mostly as a social game, where misses aren't really that big of a deal other than your friends might joke with you some. The thing on pool, some people just take to it. It tickles their brain and they like it. Others like the competition aspect and are generally competitive people. Some people like the relaxing "zen" like aspect of it. Just hitting balls listening to silence or some music they enjoy.
"Jocks" aren't necessarily attracted to it, unless it's for the competition aspect. After high school and college, and especially once you reach a certain age, there's not many sports where you remain competitive. Pool is one. It's a life long game as long as your health permits it.
"Nerds" aren't necessarily attracted to it, sure they like the "geometry" and all the little minute physics lessons it teaches, but they also might shy away from the competitive side, especially if they see some of the old stigma of the game. Nobody want's broken thumbs from some drunk you just won the table from.
It's a game that can be enjoyed by anyone, but for someone to REALLY get into it like most people here, you have to be a special type of person. Maybe we all have just the right screws loose.
boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
@justnum I'd like to offer some constructive criticism. I promise that I'm not trying to crap on your efforts. You should download GIMP and start doing some tutorials on YouTube. I get it, you're passionate about billiards and want to spread the passion to others. The thing is, and you know this because you follow other social media, you have to have a somewhat polished product. You're getting a lot of flack because it isn't polished and almost looks like trolling. Again, I'm not crapping on your efforts, but the graphics you have presented are not semi-professional looking. The pockets are not shaped correctly and the black of the pockets isn't even filled in. It looks like it was a quickly scribbled sketch of a concept you wanted to present, then you published the sketch/storyboard rather than the finished product. You've talked about learning different image editing and such, so I get that it takes a while to get proficient at that stuff. I just wanted to present you with my honest 2 cents worth. Your idea is fine, it's just you have to polish the stuff you release more. Quality over quantity.
I don't know if you have a PC or laptop, but GIMP is free and will run on even OLD computers, probably on a laptop from goodwill if you don't already have a computer. It's a bit confusing at first, but it's every bit as powerful as Photoshop without the price tag. If you're doing this on a phone or a tablet, I'd look into better image editing apps. There's a huge difference between apps and it's worth trying several out.
I don't know if you have a PC or laptop, but GIMP is free and will run on even OLD computers, probably on a laptop from goodwill if you don't already have a computer. It's a bit confusing at first, but it's every bit as powerful as Photoshop without the price tag. If you're doing this on a phone or a tablet, I'd look into better image editing apps. There's a huge difference between apps and it's worth trying several out.