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It really doesn't tear out that often. When I used to build cues in my younger days the cutters I use made a downward cut. At the super high speed they were cutting no matter what kind of wood you are cutting the pockets into it pretty much never tear out.

If the inlays are all smooth around the edges such as dots or curves the fit would be absolutely perfect you had to press them in. If it's something say like a diamond no matter how perfectly you cut it because the cutter is round at the pointed areas there's always a void.

Okay I know some cuemaker is going to chime in and say there's a way to solve that and yes I know how but I'm talking in general.

What you do then if you're installing like an ivory or mother of pearl diamond is you put it in with a tinted epoxy as close to the background wood as you can.

This is easy when you're gluing in to say ebony. You just glue it in with a black epoxy. Once its sanded and finished it's absolutely undetectable.
And Diamond does do that😅
 
Lots of people on AZB like to assume they know a thing or two, its when they're put to a test, they fall flat on their face😉
 
Do you know that for sure, or are you just assuming again?
"assume" would be an accurate word, because you're right I wasn't on hand when the rail was being milled. That said, I have quite a lot of tool work on wood and that definitively looks like tear out. Do you have intel to the otherwise...?

As far as not being touched up. Once again, I didn't monitor the rail through production and I'm assuming that it wasn't touched up. Of course the flaw resembles a natural wood colour, the surrounding wood has a stain, and the once more based on the location and pattern appears as tear out. Safe bet that it was never touched up. Do you have intel otherwise...?

What are you assuming the flaws are...?

Walks like a duck, squawks like a duck as they say...
 
Yes, I have first hand experience! Tell me all about your experiences working with PRC....oh, you have none, well when you do get back to me...its NOT wood!!
 
Yes, I have first hand experience! Tell me all about your experiences working with PRC....oh, you have none, well when you do get back to me...its NOT wood!!
right on... can you answer the questions then. Why would PRC manifest tear out exactly like wood if it's not wood...? Hard resin could chip if machined, but it doesn't look like chipping. Why does the 'not wood' appear to not be coloured in the same fashion as the rest of the 'not wood'..?

I'm not doubting your experience with the materials. Just trying to get a handle on what may actually cause the flaws we are seeing.
 
right on... can you answer the questions then. Why would PRC manifest tear out exactly like wood if it's not wood...? Hard resin could chip if machined, but it doesn't look like chipping. Why does the 'not wood' appear to not be coloured in the same fashion as the rest of the 'not wood'..?

I'm not doubting your experience with the materials. Just trying to get a handle on what may actually cause the flaws we are seeing.
Alright, understand this, the PRC is very hard, this is a fact, but because its so hard, its also brittle, which means it don't like being machined anywhere near the edges, or creating edges with inlay machining. Does that make since, its NOT a wood product.
 
Are you saying they didn't touch it up. Did you see the table for yourself, or are you just assuming???
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I would not accept it. Not happening if I'm dropping 10 grand.
 
Don't sweat it, no one on this planet will sell you a pool table either if you need to blow up pictures and look at the details that close, good luck buying anything.
Don't sweat it, no one on this planet will sell you a pool table either if you need to blow up pictures and look at the details that close, good luck buying anything.
Diamond won't miss your money, trust me😅🤣😂
 
I just copied and pasted that picture from the OP's first post. Sorry, but the diamonds on my American Heritage were done better than that.
 
I just copied and pasted that picture from the OP's first post. Sorry, but the diamonds on my American Heritage were done better than that.
I wonder if yours is really inlayed or decal. Olhausen's are done well. I think they are done better in a cnc .
 
I wonder if yours is really inlayed or decal. Olhausen's are done well. I think they are done better in a cnc .
Nope. They were inlaid. This was an older model I bought a while back. It was the Independence model.

Edit.... I remember having one pop out when a ball hit it. Glued back in.... no problems after
 
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I just copied and pasted that picture from the OP's first post. Sorry, but the diamonds on my American Heritage were done better than that.
Look up the reviews on you American Heritage pool table😅🤣😂 as usual, you don't know shit!!!

This is a quote from another pool table mechanic....the internet is loaded with warning not to buy them...and you're more proud to own one of them, over a Diamond?😅 cheap pool table= cheap customer😅

The American Heritage pool table is by far the worst table on the market. I’m a pool table services tech. I work with thousands of tables a year. No other table presents as many problems consistently than American Heritage. The 2 main problems are the non-backed slate and the rail cushion rubber.
The slate sits on a slate pad that runs the length and width of the table with an over-hang of 4-6 inches. The slate screws into the pad, not the frame. This means you can’t level the slates as you would on a better quality table.
Next, the cushion rubber is the poorest quality rubber I’ve seen. It will dry-rot and become hard and brittle within a year.Stay Away! These aren’t the only issues with American Heritage.

Review poster
 
Nope. They were inlaid. This was an older model I bought a while back. It was the Independence model.
Nope. They were inlaid. This was an older model I bought a while back. It was the Independence model.
100's of negative complaints can be found relating to the American Heritage pool tables, and poor customer support, but yes, you're the RIGHT buyer for one😅🤣😂
 
Look up the reviews on you American Heritage pool table😅🤣😂 as usual, you don't know shit!!!

This is a quote from another pool table mechanic....the internet is loaded with warning not to buy them...and you're more proud to own one of them, over a Diamond?😅 cheap pool table= cheap customer😅

The American Heritage pool table is by far the worst table on the market. I’m a pool table services tech. I work with thousands of tables a year. No other table presents as many problems consistently than American Heritage. The 2 main problems are the non-backed slate and the rail cushion rubber.
The slate sits on a slate pad that runs the length and width of the table with an over-hang of 4-6 inches. The slate screws into the pad, not the frame. This means you can’t level the slates as you would on a better quality table.
Next, the cushion rubber is the poorest quality rubber I’ve seen. It will dry-rot and become hard and brittle within a year.Stay Away! These aren’t the only issues with American Heritage.

Review poster
Boy, you're full of piss and vinegar tonight aren't you? Along with probably a half gallon of alcohol.

#1... I don't own it anymore. And I never said I would rather have this than a diamond you dumbass.
#2... it had k66 Championship cushions.
#3... it had 1 in slate, and no it wasn't properly backed. But I had no problems leveling them. Leveled frame first, then finished with shims in the proper places. No problems.
#4 On this one, I remember this slate being screwed down, but I don't remember if it was into the beams or not. I have pictures somewhere from when I set it up. But I do remember the laminated beams going all the way out to the end of the Slate.... both laterally and horizontally.

#5 the rails were bolted directly to the slate, so I consider that a plus. It did help with the playability

#6.. and last, and most important, go take your condescending , prepubescent ass back to the couch and crawl back in your bottle.
 
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I will hand it to RKC he is knowledgeable and a tireless advocate for Diamond Tables.

This situation is simple: The OP ordered a table and it was not delivered to his expectations and it needs to be corrected. It sounds like it will be which is great. How this is even a little bit arguable or excusable by some is beyond me.
 
I will hand it to RKC he is knowledgeable and a tireless advocate for Diamond Tables.

This situation is simple: The OP ordered a table and it was not delivered to his expectations and it needs to be corrected. It sounds like it will be which is great. How this is even a little bit arguable or excusable by some is beyond me.
It's only arguable when blame is place on the wrong parties involved😉
 
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