Shaft flex doesn't affect how much english you get. Only tip offset does. 3C players use VERY stiff shafts and they spin the hell out of it.
LD shaft recommendation.
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I beg to differ.
I had a Schon cue that I foolishly sold and bought a Meucci in the mid 80's.
I was amazed at how little effort it took to move the cue ball as opposed to the Schon.
The Schon was very stiff and the Meucci was whippy.
The place where you hit the cueball is 30% vs 70% the way how you hit the cb, to generate top spin you need a fast solid strike and ld are second for that.
L.D. can't handle hard tip well, you will miscue with ld and hard tip on extreme cb edge, that's the reality.
L.D. can't handle hard tip well, you will miscue with ld and hard tip on extreme cb edge, that's the reality.
I agree. I’m just wondering what the other variables there are and I’m trying to illustrate that shaft stiffness does not necessarily cause more spin. I figure the biggest difference in how much spin is generated from one cue to another is based on how the weight and balance point affect the stroke.
A new fishing pole may not help you catch fish either, but every once in a while, it's nice to try something different, and buy a new one. Why? Because you can.
Nothing wrong with that way of looking at it. If it makes you happy then go with it.A new fishing pole may not help you catch fish either, but every once in a while, it's nice to try something different, and buy a new one. Why? Because you can.
Haha, you begin to mix everything together, it's funny, stroke is stroke and material is material.
As stated before, only tip offset generates spin. BP and/or weight really have nothing to do with it. The further out you can get without mis-cuing is how you get max. spin. As long as the tip is decent you can get just as much spin with a pos house cue as you can using a hi-dollar butt/shaft combo.
Some spin info based on facts not old pool lore: https://billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue-tip/hardness/ Again, shaft flex and tip hardnes are not what determines how much spin/english you can generate. People keep saying/believing this because its been accepted as fact based on subjective reactions and not much else.
Take a shaft very whippy like a Schmelke flat laminated or more whippy and put the tip that you want and come with me to make super draw shot, you will learn something, you don't know what you talk about or may you are a ZZZ player.
Good advice.
I have a PREDATOR 314, 314-2 and a Z shaft.
The 314-2 was a mild update, if I had it to do over ... or if I had tried it before purchase ... I wouldn't have spent the cash.
The Z is really beyond the ability of most players IMHO.
HUHH??? I've had hard tips on 314Pred. shafts and zero issues with miscuing. I don't go 'extreme edge' to spin the ball. With any cue. You really need to package all your ideas and message Dr. Dave with them. Love to see his response. You may really believe some of what you say but science/facts doesn't back up much of it. https://billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue/low-squirt/#spin Tons of info on DD's site.
Tip hardness and spin: https://billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue-tip/hardness/
Sure they can. Shaft flex has nothing to do with it. Ever watched any 3c billiards? They use REALLY stiff shafts and generate extreme spin. How far you can get from center without mis-cuing is what determines spin. I don't know any top pro that uses what you describe as 'whippy' shaft. I've watched SVB from 6ft away using his cf cue and he can spin the living shit out of the cb. Keep believing the old fables if you want.
Some good cue info: https://billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue/
You just show your poor ability to understand, you can believe all what you read it is only your problem, no more time to loose with you.
I read/watch because they've actually done the tests. Unlike you who just keep spouting decades-old pool fables. You're the one that either doesn't understand or is too stubborn to face facts. Oh btw, the word is 'lose' not 'loose'. You probably won't believe that either.