SVB to Kick Off High Run Attempts

And Lew, we're not talking about any other table here, just this table. What Johns table looks like or don't look like don't have shit to do with this circus table, so don't try deflection away from the subject being talked about, all that does is make you even more guilty of covering up the truth! Are you a politician, because you have all the makings of being one that's for damn sure!!
 
lfigueroa said:
So let me ask you: a friend shares photos with you but asks you not to post them.

Are you saying you violate your friend’s trust snd post them anyway?

Lou Figueroa
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That's not the part that's funny to me; I respect that and would do the same.

It's funny that the pics exist but they are top secret.
 
rexus31 said:
That's not the part that's funny to me; I respect that and would do the same.

It's funny that the pics exist but they are top secret.
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Kinda like the outrage of the JS video not being available to all? ;)

(I also wouldn't post the photo's if asked not to.)
 
realkingcobra said:
No matter what camera you use to take a picture of the corner pocket, it won't change the fact that the pocket liner is exposed in the throat of the pocket because the pocket throat of the rail no longer extends to the edge of the pocket, because its been cut back. If you take a look at the picture I posted, you'll clearly see the pocket liners are clearly exposed in the throat of the pocket on both sides.

How hard would it be to place 2 balls together side by side in the throat of the pocket then take a picture of that? Again, NO camera or angle in which the picture is taken is going to show the balls don't touch each other because the throat of the pocket is so wide. On a stock pocket the balls won't fit side by side in the throat, they're wider than the throat of the pocket is....but not on this table, the throat is wider than the balls put together!!!

Post on picture of the pocket on YOUR pool table with the balls in the throat, let's see how that looks😅
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Maybe someday day we'll get around to that, maybe we won't.

But as of right now, I wouldn't bet on it.

Lou Figueroa
 
realkingcobra said:
Does the throat of this pocket look like its as wide as the mouth of the pocket is?View attachment 616716
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Once again, that's not the photo angle we've been discussing.

The photo angle you are showing has not been taken and honestly with your, "ADMIT IT, ADMIT IT" attitude it is most likely those will never be taken much less posted.

Lou Figueroa
way to go, Elmer
 
realkingcobra said:
Post a picture of 2 balls together in the throat of the pocket and I won't say another word in this thread, just make sure the balls are as far back in the pocket as they'll go, and side by side!!!
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I don't have to do shit to satisfy you -- go pound sand until you post photos of John Schmidt's Rebco table pockets with caliper measurements shown.

Lou Figueroa
 
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realkingcobra said:
And Lew, we're not talking about any other table here, just this table. What Johns table looks like or don't look like don't have shit to do with this circus table, so don't try deflection away from the subject being talked about, all that does is make you even more guilty of covering up the truth! Are you a politician, because you have all the makings of being one that's for damn sure!!
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Sure, that's what you would like but Homey don't play that game.

John's HIGH RUN table, CERTIFIED by THE BCA, has everything to do with our table because you're making a big deal about our table specs. You want to get up our ass about our table pockets -- give up the specs on THE BCA CERTIFIED HIGH RUN BY JOHN SCHMIDT TABLE POCKETS.

oh... but those specs are not available because they were never provided in the first place, you never made the same stink, and the table was immediately dismantled after the run, lol.

Lou Figueroa
ahem, or go pound sand
 
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Z-Nole said:
Seriously?? You really believe this? Nothing at all?? Lol
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lfigueroa said:
The photos, which I have had for awhile, show the pocket and caliper measurements for the middle of the pocket and the throat.

But... those photos are not mine and the guy who they belong to has not given me clearance to post them. Basically his position is that regardless of what the photos show our pockets will continue to be nitpicked. And frankly, re-reading the posts here on this subject I can't say I blame him. So no photos. Sorry.

Lou Figueroa
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Lou I never agreed with you regarding J.S, but I always respected you for calmly trying to make your point (as misguided and wrong as it was). But know you have made a mockery of your own contest.

All you had to do was post the table info (in a transparent way). Instead you seem to get a rise out of withholding certain details. Even answering a question about pocket depth is a major issue with you.

You guys look silly and immature. Even if the table was modified, why wouldn't you just say that. If the table is stock, post the measurements. Even DR. Dave's pool school requires table measurements (as a comparison).

Congrats for making pool suck again!
 
Welder84 said:
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Lou I never agreed with you regarding J.S, but I always respected you for calmly trying to make your point (as misguided and wrong as it was). But know you have made a mockery of your own contest.

All you had to do was post the table info (in a transparent way). Instead you seem to get a rise out of withholding certain details. Even answering a question about pocket depth is a major issue with you.

You guys look silly and immature. Even if the table was modified, why wouldn't you just say that. If the table is stock, post the measurements. Even DR. Dave's pool school requires table measurements (as a comparison).

Congrats for making pool suck again!
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Posting up the pocket size mit photos is not an issue for *me*, please keep up.

It is an issue for the guy who is putting up the hard work and the dough. It is his call and he doesn't want the photos published -- I don't get the final vote, all I can do is advise. And frankly there are some other things coming down the road which I don't agree with but was out voted by the committee. So that's the deal.

Lou Figueroa
 
lfigueroa said:
Posting up the pocket size mit photos is not an issue for me, please keep up.

It is an issue for the guy who is putting up the hard work and the dough. It is his call and he doesn't want the photos published -- I don't get the final vote, all I can do is advise. And frankly there are some other things coming down the road which I don't agree with but was out voted by the committee. So that's the deal.

Lou Figueroa
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I respect you answering my question honestly. Thank you
 
Welder84 said:
I respect you answering my question honestly. Thank you
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Thank you.

You know, I find myself in an awkward but somehow familiar position.

At the Pentagon, we would occasionally find ourselves in the position of being questioned by the public and the media. And in my experience there I found a general's predisposition was mostly to not say jack. It was my job to explain to the three or four star the ramifications of their decision and how we owed it to the citizenry to be forthright, good or bad, about what we were doing.

Flash forward to today and I was asked to rep for this event on AZ, mostly because it is well known that I have reptile-like skin, can string a few words together in a coherent fashion, and when necessary can give as good as I get. But even so, all I can do is give my good counsel based upon my education and professional experience. In the final analysis it is the guy who is paying the bills for this event who gets to decide, along with the five member committee on which I have one vote out of five,

So when you all decide who is going to burn at the stake for any particular thing related to this event, please keep all that in mind. I could quit but feel I can to more good by staying.

Lou Figueroa
 
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justadub said:
Kinda like the outrage of the JS video not being available to all? ;)

(I also wouldn't post the photo's if asked not to.)
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There's a monetary value in releasing the video from JS that everyone knows would get shared by everyone for free.....what's the monetary value in the pictures of the throat of the pocket? Other than to keep the fact secret about altering the pocket opening and they'd provide the proof?
 
Buzzard II said:
I don't have a dog in this fight but many years ago I attended a photography school studying commercial photography. So I know very well about perspective and distortion with lenses.

I went down to my basement and measured the pockets of my GC4. Each corner was 5" at the opening and 4.1/4 at the pocket back. With each of my high end lenses you could tell the opening was wider. Until I used my phone camera from about five inches away. Damn if the back didn't look wider than the front. (mouth, whatever)

Since most photos today are shot with Chinese phones before you jump all over Lou do your own testing. Use your telephone and get low and very close. Use a ruler so you know for sure. You can make your camera lie.

Leave the dislike of personality out of it. Facts before acts.
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post them pics, eh?
 
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lfigueroa said:
Once again, that's not the photo angle we've been discussing.

The photo angle you are showing has not been taken and honestly with your, "ADMIT IT, ADMIT IT" attitude it is most likely those will never be taken much less posted.

Lou Figueroa
way to go, Elmer
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Of course not, but that picture does, requardless of the angle, SHOW the funnel effect of the throat of the pocket getting tighter, not LOOSE like your photo does!!
 
lfigueroa said:
Posting up the pocket size mit photos is not an issue for *me*, please keep up.

It is an issue for the guy who is putting up the hard work and the dough. It is his call and he doesn't want the photos published -- I don't get the final vote, all I can do is advise. And frankly there are some other things coming down the road which I don't agree with but was out voted by the committee. So that's the deal.

Lou Figueroa
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Now that's an honest answer from you finally, so you're not to blame for this gaff table, but I assure you BC is!!
 
Cameron Smith said:
Tested out this photo angle perspective stuff.

Here are my pockets from two different perspectives for comparison.

https://imgur.com/a/VH7vWJe
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First picture shows the tighter throat, second picture is a joke. First picture is like the one posted of the table in discussion in this thread, now compare your first picture to this one!
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