I've been playing for many years but never used a jump cue. I've had shoulder problems for a long time. My rotator cuff has finally been repaired. I've been very good at kicking over the years but recently I've seen several players great jumping ability abuse my safeties. It's time to learn how to jump. Any recommendations on an economical jump stick? Although I'd rather not, budget could stretch to $300.
Jump cue
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outrider1
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I picked up a J&J break/jump sneaky pete ten years ago, it's all I've used since then.
boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
This is the one I use: https://www.seyberts.com/dufferin-cues/dufferin-d951-striped-maple-with-ash-shaft-jump-cue/
Works very well and it's around $100. You might find it cheaper with some searching. It's nothing "fancy" but it jumps well and has a quick release joint. The ash shaft has a good feel to it.
You might also look into the easy jump bridge, you don't need it, but it gets you understanding the angles a bit better while you're still working on your bridge.
Great white OG chalk works really well on the tip, there might be other good jumping chalks but this is the one I tried and liked.
Works very well and it's around $100. You might find it cheaper with some searching. It's nothing "fancy" but it jumps well and has a quick release joint. The ash shaft has a good feel to it.
You might also look into the easy jump bridge, you don't need it, but it gets you understanding the angles a bit better while you're still working on your bridge.
Great white OG chalk works really well on the tip, there might be other good jumping chalks but this is the one I tried and liked.
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The jump shot is basically a concept. If the cue is lightweight says 7 oz or so and it's got the right tip you can jump. There's no need to spend $300 on a jump cue.
any cheap jump beak cue on eBay, just modify the ferrule/ tip combo you'd like. There are plenty easy to use jump break tips out there to choose from. Just make sure you get a jump break cue with a strong ferrule material such as brown phenolic or black, even g10.
Well, as far as jumpin is concerned you need to be careful with your shoulder and all. If you've never jumped before I'd recommend a basic jump cue with a phenolic tip, tip/ferrule combos are ok too. The brand doesn't matter so much, J&J or Bunjee or something similar will do just fine for about 60-100 dollars. I'd steer clear of ultra light ones or ones with 3-4 parts etc. Cues around 7.5-9 ounces will jump easy, with control, at the minimum effort. That is important, because you certainly don't want to strain your shoulder. Later, if you decide to try to jump over full balls a chalks width away, you can invest in some ultra light carbon nonsense, but for most jumps, those cues tend to actually make it harder to have control of the power etc.. You don't want to strain any part of your body or work hard on stroking fast. Just a nice smooth stroke will do wonders with the type of cue I recommended. If the cue is significantly lighter, you'll need to stroke it faster, which makes your shot more strained and less controlled, however you can then jump closer. My advice is to learn the easy jumps well. The extreme shots are low percentage, anyway.
Start with jumping with a rather shallow angle on your jump cue, and jump only half a ball in the beginning and just let the cue do the work. Getting over a ball will happen almost immidiately. Unfortunately people then move on to extreme and silly shots, without actual mastery and control over the easy shots, and they never full learn the shots that they actually will need to shoot. If you can avoid that temptation, take it slow, in steps with mastery of each before moving to the next, you'll be better than 80-90% of players very, very quickly. Notice where the cue ball lands, and try to land in the same spot on every shot when you set up your training shots. Slowly, and in a controlled way, try to change the landing area, and stay in the the new landing area, etc.. This is probably THE most important thing to learn, because landing in the correct spot is probably 80-90% of the recipe for successful jumps. Without mastery of this, you'll never be consistent. Also, if you learn to land on the ball from any position (of short to medium length), consistently, then you can make shots that probably less than 5% of the pool playing population can make and you never have to actually set up silly shots to learn how to do it.
Shallow angle gives more speed and less height to the cue ball. Speed and low elevation is your friend for long shots. Because of the extreme elevation, unwanted masses happen very easily. Do not over-elevate! Try to elevate as little as possible. For short shots (which you should wait a bit before you try) you need more angle and less speed. As you get better at this, you can put draw on the ball. Then sidespin. Follow is the most difficult (on short shots especially) and should be learned last.
Start with jumping with a rather shallow angle on your jump cue, and jump only half a ball in the beginning and just let the cue do the work. Getting over a ball will happen almost immidiately. Unfortunately people then move on to extreme and silly shots, without actual mastery and control over the easy shots, and they never full learn the shots that they actually will need to shoot. If you can avoid that temptation, take it slow, in steps with mastery of each before moving to the next, you'll be better than 80-90% of players very, very quickly. Notice where the cue ball lands, and try to land in the same spot on every shot when you set up your training shots. Slowly, and in a controlled way, try to change the landing area, and stay in the the new landing area, etc.. This is probably THE most important thing to learn, because landing in the correct spot is probably 80-90% of the recipe for successful jumps. Without mastery of this, you'll never be consistent. Also, if you learn to land on the ball from any position (of short to medium length), consistently, then you can make shots that probably less than 5% of the pool playing population can make and you never have to actually set up silly shots to learn how to do it.
Shallow angle gives more speed and less height to the cue ball. Speed and low elevation is your friend for long shots. Because of the extreme elevation, unwanted masses happen very easily. Do not over-elevate! Try to elevate as little as possible. For short shots (which you should wait a bit before you try) you need more angle and less speed. As you get better at this, you can put draw on the ball. Then sidespin. Follow is the most difficult (on short shots especially) and should be learned last.
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I got a Lucasi for $60 about 10 years ago. Same stick today is $90-ish.
I have a really fancy amboyna burl jump cue, but you're probably better off with any of the budget options mentioned above purely on bang for the buck
I have that same cue, works great for both dart style and traditional. I find the jump-only cues to be much easier to use than the jump-break combo cues.
After trying & owning a bunch of jumpers, the Lucasi Air Hog 2 works for me.
YMMV,
Keith
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Inexpensive great jumping cue. I use a j&J break/jump that has a white diamond tip, but I've had the jump cue I linked and really found it to be a great jump cue.
Pechauer makes a very good jump cue. It excels at full table jumps, making the ball, with cue control. Lacks a little at those close, dart style jumps. That’s with my stroke, YMMV. Predators’ latest version of a dedicated jump cue is incredible. It has no deficiencies, accept price.
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Me too
boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
The advice above from @Straightpool_99 is damn good advice, I'm guilty of trying the exotic ones before mastering the "easy" ones. Gonna have to further strategize my jump journey.
One other piece of advice from a novice (at best, more like beginner) jumper. Pay attention to trying to keep your sight picture the same on jumps. It's closer to what you will see while standing at the table than down on a regular shot. Try for consistency and making the shot picture look the same on most jumps. You don't have the same optical illusions happening when you go from standing to getting down on a shot, but you do have a slightly different one of stroking straight from an alien position. Try to keep consistency and watch closely what happens on the shots. Have fun!
One other piece of advice from a novice (at best, more like beginner) jumper. Pay attention to trying to keep your sight picture the same on jumps. It's closer to what you will see while standing at the table than down on a regular shot. Try for consistency and making the shot picture look the same on most jumps. You don't have the same optical illusions happening when you go from standing to getting down on a shot, but you do have a slightly different one of stroking straight from an alien position. Try to keep consistency and watch closely what happens on the shots. Have fun!