How will Dennis Orcullo's ordeal effect other players on a visa?

Maniac

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Surely there must be other Filippino/international pool players doing the same thing DO was doing. I see many foreign players all the time that are for the most part playing in about every major tourney here in the states (and some not-so-major ones).

Is it possible that this banning is going to affect the frequency of coming to America by other players? If so, which ones do you suspect it will affect?

Maniac
 
Dennis problem will make any other player be VERY AWARE of their visa status and what they have to do and when
this should be the end of this thread
 
I think a lot of international pool players will apply for the athlete/performer visa and then have easier travel to the US. Maybe this will be a renaissance of Asian and European players spending a lot of time here as well. Could be good in the long run.
 
Anyone of a stature such as Dennis, who plans to come to the U.S. for an extended period on a Visa, should first be consulting with a qualified immigration attorney; not doing that is a big risk. Finding the correct attorney to consult is the key for those individuals; someone who gets paid because they truly know the laws and the available options under the laws.
 
CocoboloCowboy said:
But did he save, or blow it like the day would never come he was no longer top player? That was out of the game.
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Why are you even discussing this on this thread???

You asked in your earlier post (#2 in this thread) why we need to discuss this what if bullshit.

Scroll past this thread next time you're on the Main Forum.

Maniac
 
Maniac said:
Why are you even discussing this on this thread???

You asked in your earlier post (#2 in this thread) why we need to discuss this what if bullshit.

Scroll past this thread next time you're on the Main Forum.

Maniac
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Do you add any thing that made chance, people travel, do not get booted at customs gate because they do thing right, in compliance with rules.
 
Maniac said:
Surely there must be other Filippino/international pool players doing the same thing DO was doing. I see many foreign players all the time that are for the most part playing in about every major tourney here in the states (and some not-so-major ones).

Is it possible that this banning is going to affect the frequency of coming to America by other players? If so, which ones do you suspect it will affect?

Maniac
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This assumes that the US border authority cares about pool players specifically.

A guy from Austria carrying two sticks of wood trying to enter the US will not be affiliated to Dennis and his so called "plight".

At most I'm willing to bet that all those international players may glance at their paperwork (assuming they have any) once in the next couple of days, and then it will be 'business' as usual.
 
The_JV said:
At most I'm willing to bet that all those international players may glance at their paperwork (assuming they have any) once in the next couple of days, and then it will be 'business' as usual.
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This was my thinking when I started the thread. It's probably a good bet that there are others overstaying their visas, even if just for a brief amount of time.

I'm not even remotely aware of how any of these visa/immigration laws work as they have never, nor will they ever, affect my life directly. So....if a Mexican comes across the border on a work visa (green card), does he/she have to spend more time in Mexico than in the U.S. in a given time frame.

Someone educate me. I always assumed those workers coming over on work visas could come and stay until their visas expired and then apply and recieve another (as long as they obeyed all U.S. laws/restrictions).

I also assumed that basically all these international pool players were doing likewise, but now I see that it doesn't work like I thought it did.

Maniac (admits his stupidity on the subject)
 
Maniac said:
This was my thinking when I started the thread. It's probably a good bet that there are others overstaying their visas, even if just for a brief amount of time.

I'm not even remotely aware of how any of these visa/immigration laws work as they have never, nor will they ever, affect my life directly. So....if a Mexican comes across the border on a work visa (green card), does he/she have to spend more time in Mexico than in the U.S. in a given time frame.

Someone educate me. I always assumed those workers coming over on work visas could come and stay until their visas expired and then apply and recieve another (as long as they obeyed all U.S. laws/restrictions).

I also assumed that basically all these international pool players were doing likewise, but now I see that it doesn't work like I thought it did.

Maniac (admits his stupidity on the subject)
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Its beyond complicated. You need to do a google search and educate yourself. One thing: big difference in a visa and a green card. A visa is for non-immigrant short term stays. A GC(aka immigrant visa) is proof of the holders immigrant status and that they can stay/work here indefinitely. Its basically one of the steps to citizenship.
 
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Maniac said:
This was my thinking when I started the thread. It's probably a good bet that there are others overstaying their visas, even if just for a brief amount of time.

I'm not even remotely aware of how any of these visa/immigration laws work as they have never, nor will they ever, affect my life directly. So....if a Mexican comes across the border on a work visa (green card), does he/she have to spend more time in Mexico than in the U.S. in a given time frame.

Someone educate me. I always assumed those workers coming over on work visas could come and stay until their visas expired and then apply and recieve another (as long as they obeyed all U.S. laws/restrictions).

I also assumed that basically all these international pool players were doing likewise, but now I see that it doesn't work like I thought it did.

Maniac (admits his stupidity on the subject)
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ICE, Immigration, and othe enforce my work as hard as the administration in power allows.

Someone mentioned U S Customs Officers are painin butt, and not warm & fuzzy.

Having been back and forth the the U S international Border, I never can say I had many problems.

One a rookie agent said Ivprofin 160 mags, was controlled. I said supervisor please, stood by 3-4 minutes.
Senior Agent arrived, told rookie he was incorrect. End of delay. I

If you travel I-8 in CA or AZ you will go through Border Patrol Checks, Dogs work with Handlers, they catch a lot of dump people trying to more drugs.

Most get arrested because they are the ones who think they are smarter then Dogs Noses.🤥
 
garczar said:
A GC(aka immigrant visa) is proof of the holders immigrant status and that they can stay/work here indefinitely. Its basically one of the steps to citizenship.
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Maybe this is the route DO and others should take and have dual citizenship.
 
I worked twice in the USA on contract related visas as a geologist. The terms are quite specific.

I wasn’t allowed to earn any income or gratuities other than specified in my job description. This would have included something like being paid $100 to make an appearance at a pool room or even winning $10 at a table against a player, . It also prohibits any non monetary rewards like a free room or meals.

Of course US Immigration isn’t going to concern itself with the $10 win at the table or free meal but would act if a pattern of similar visa abuse was pointed out to them. I’m guessing that Orcullo has been granted entry visas into the USA on the basis of participating in a specific tournament (s).
 
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