Where oh where do you go Front Foot?

Well because both knees are shot, ankles shot, and feet have arthritis. I line up most of time like Snooker player.

As you age body don’t work
Like 18 year old so TEXT BOOK thing sometime do not work out.

Use to have this guy who apparently when to some pool teacher school. He said he was certified instructor.

He was trying to show this other gentleman how to line up for shot. Guys say I can not move like that, I lost both legs in Vietnam.

Artificial limbs do not move like what you were born with.
 
Bob Jewett said:
I have had students who put both feet in line. I think that's broken because it is not stable. I've even had a student who put their front foot on the wrong side of the cue. It's remarkable how many adults don't actually know how to stand. Or at least, stand in a solid position.
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I saw a teacher deal with that problem. He merely touched the player in his stance and he almost fell over.

fwiw,


Jeff Livingston
 
boogieman said:
I've come to the conclusion that I need to stop thinking about dumb stuff. See the shot, address the shot in a balanced and athletic manner, shoot the shot.
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I struggled with the same thing over the years. When do I need to let something go? At what point am I wasting my time? Over the years I realized that some people are just thinkers. Their minds are always working. But thinkers are innovators and creators, too, so it's not always a bad thing.
 
Jimmy Ballard, HOF golf instructor, does something along these lines. Has you get in position and then bumps into you. If you're tense and aligned bad you almost fall over. If you're balanced and flexed you wont.
 
FranCrimi said:
I struggled with the same thing over the years. When do I need to let something go? At what point am I wasting my time? Over the years I realized that some people are just thinkers. Their minds are always working. But thinkers are innovators and creators, too, so it's not always a bad thing.
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Amen. My head is always going, even thought I innately know that at performance time you have to shut it off, it burns my butt in practice. It's also bad if I get to thinking and forget the performance place at the table. It's quite annoying.

On some things, it's kind of nice, like I know how to properly set up a table, stretch cloth, maintain pool cues, replace tips, etc. Mainly because I'm always wanting to dig deeper in any subject I'm really into. It's a blessing and a curse. Also diminishing returns can drive me batty. Like you know if you do XYZ something will improve, trouble is that it's not humanly possible to do XYZ. Sometimes it works, but sometimes leads me to chase my own tail for far too long. 🤣
 
garczar said:
Just my $.02 here but i think where your back foot goes is the most important. Get it on the shot line and step forward. Where your FF lands is more of a preference that an absolute. FWIW i step forward and left at same time. If i step straight parallel to shot line i feel way too cramped and stroke tends to have a slight 'swoop' to it.
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I understand the point made here about the importance of the back foot placement, however, I wouldn't take the front foot placement as lightly as this. I think it's pretty close to equally as important as the back foot placement. One example is playing with a twisted neck. Many players don't realize that they're shooting pool by looking over their shoulder for no reason other than they don't know any better. But a front foot placement adjustment suddenly frees up your neck from a twisted contorted position.
 
These subtle changes tend to happen as we age, as Fran indicated, above.

That is, there is no objective spot for everyone, everytime. It takes using a process of adapting to nature's calls while being consistent during competition, regardless.

It ain't easy gettin' old.


Jeff Livingston
 
FranCrimi said:
Why fight your anatomy and needlessly twist your knees if you don't have to? When you fight your anatomy, you tire faster. If you're lifting heavy weights and have to brace yourself, or are constantly changing your center of gravity, that's a different story --- you have to brace yourself
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Well chosen- and very well described (as usual my dear Fran :-p )

The natural given "stroke direction" aka "anatomical natrually alilgnment" is always a good choice to give it a try. From my personal expirience it fits a BIG amount of humans/players.

The other way, like it is for example taught in Snooker is also not wrong- but in my opinion here a well expirienced coach with the necessary knowledge is a big help.
Each human is an individual- and so it has also an individual body! So it s all about how to *build* the body around the cue- to give yourself the best chance to deliver a repeatable straight stroke. That s what counts and matters.
 
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evergruven said:
interesting idea, I can kinda see it..would you explain tho?
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Tall like Styer, Archer, Ms Crimi too as far as I can tell. Long linkage no doubt creates precision issues but as far as assuming the position, looks like no issues. Get in place and the stroke stays optimal. People like Orcullo, Varner, Raga, numerous others known and unknown like myself (the only time I belong in that company) often have to jump through hoops to get everything to the pockets. Stroke, reach, jumps, name it...
 
straightline said:
Tall like Styer, Archer, Ms Crimi too as far as I can tell. Long linkage no doubt creates precision issues but as far as assuming the position, looks like no issues. Get in place and the stroke stays optimal. People like Orcullo, Varner, Raga, numerous others known and unknown like myself (the only time I belong in that company) often have to jump through hoops to get everything to the pockets. Stroke, reach, jumps, name it...
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thanks. I was thinking along these lines as well, being long you have more room to find what you need, but also more room to find a hitch, as you allude
being short/compact, maybe there's less room for error, but you definitely have to "find it" quick, and be creative/athletic with some of the body movements
tall folks have more physical slack to work with, but does that translate to an overall, definitive advantage on the table? I'm not sure..but I am short ^_^
 
evergruven said:
thanks. I was thinking along these lines as well, being long you have more room to find what you need, but also more room to find a hitch, as you allude
being short/compact, maybe there's less room for error, but you definitely have to "find it" quick, and be creative/athletic with some of the body movements
tall folks have more physical slack to work with, but does that translate to an overall, definitive advantage on the table? I'm not sure..but I am short ^_^
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The game is complex enough that there are numerous workarounds to physical shortcomings; Efren for instance. Still, stature may not insure dominance but the examples for physical superiority are numerous.
 
straightline said:
Tall like Styer, Archer, Ms Crimi too as far as I can tell. Long linkage no doubt creates precision issues but as far as assuming the position, looks like no issues. Get in place and the stroke stays optimal. People like Orcullo, Varner, Raga, numerous others known and unknown like myself (the only time I belong in that company) often have to jump through hoops to get everything to the pockets. Stroke, reach, jumps, name it...
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If you're not tall, then you wouldn't realize that being tall also has it's share of difficulties. Tall people have to stand farther back from the shot. They have to spread their legs apart more or bend more at their knees to get lower to the table. They often experience back pain issues due to extreme bending. Pool tables vary in height, and a tall person who winds up competing on a group of lower tables is facing major stance and comfort adjustments.
 
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