Attention Jay Helfert. Got a question for you.
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There are now that it's going to be renamed AZBaseball.I never realized there were so many guys named Jay Helfert, on this forum.
CanadianGuy
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Gwynn was a one trick pony
Ted Williams.....lol, who knows, doubt anybody here saw him, same for Worst
The kid was probably the best ball player ever without peer
Ceuelemans past his prime was beating a prime Blohmdahl....nuff said
Ted Williams.....lol, who knows, doubt anybody here saw him, same for Worst
The kid was probably the best ball player ever without peer
Ceuelemans past his prime was beating a prime Blohmdahl....nuff said
I ain’t as old as Jay, but I’ve been around pro pool since 85. The last 15 years I been super close to pro pool. I’m not a pro, but I been in and around pro pool deeper than most non-pro’s. Not bragging just describing what I’ve seen and learned.
Imo the guys who played the best then would be the best now and vice versa. We don’t know who the best player ever was. It’s not clear the balls roll funny for everyone. (Sounds familiar?) it’s because it’s true.
There are a couple “kids” right now that are part of the all-time best player conversation. Filler & Gorst. The rest of those young guys are playing for 2nd. Like when Segal was king or Johnny or SVB. Or Miz.
I date back to 85 so I can’t go much before Segal without guessing at it. But what I saw, lived and who I know on a personal level has allowed me to speak very intelligently about Segal to JA to SVB, I know those 3 all personally, they know me the same. I call they answer and they call me-socially. Being around and knowing them I learned lots about pool you won’t see on Accustats or espn or YouTube. I don’t know Earl, but we have spoke over the years. Met most pros. I’ve been lucky to meet them and be friends with some. I’m the worst player in the room, that’s ok. I dont pretend to be something I’m not. I don’t mention it much as I respect their privacy. I can talk about pool and do with out name dropping. I did here for a reason. Credibility, that’s all.
The young guys now who are ultra elite gifted are no more or less gifted.
Can’t compare era’s. But I believe the elite would still be the elite and then there’s the rest.
Imo the guys who played the best then would be the best now and vice versa. We don’t know who the best player ever was. It’s not clear the balls roll funny for everyone. (Sounds familiar?) it’s because it’s true.
There are a couple “kids” right now that are part of the all-time best player conversation. Filler & Gorst. The rest of those young guys are playing for 2nd. Like when Segal was king or Johnny or SVB. Or Miz.
I date back to 85 so I can’t go much before Segal without guessing at it. But what I saw, lived and who I know on a personal level has allowed me to speak very intelligently about Segal to JA to SVB, I know those 3 all personally, they know me the same. I call they answer and they call me-socially. Being around and knowing them I learned lots about pool you won’t see on Accustats or espn or YouTube. I don’t know Earl, but we have spoke over the years. Met most pros. I’ve been lucky to meet them and be friends with some. I’m the worst player in the room, that’s ok. I dont pretend to be something I’m not. I don’t mention it much as I respect their privacy. I can talk about pool and do with out name dropping. I did here for a reason. Credibility, that’s all.
The young guys now who are ultra elite gifted are no more or less gifted.
Can’t compare era’s. But I believe the elite would still be the elite and then there’s the rest.
I was thinking the same.
He asked Jay and 200 rail birds including me respond.
We are all experts-just ask us!!
Honestly the collective knowledge that’s been here over the years IS pool, our culture.
Best
Fatboy
Ummmm, some will have 30K's by the end of April. No joke.
Right, he got on base and nobody could strike him out. He won 7 batting titles. Retired with an average of .338 which MOST players could not hit in one season, let alone avg it for entire career 20 year career. He was elected to 15 MLB All-Star games. Won 7 Silver Slugger awards. Won 6 Gold Gloves. One trick huh?
He batted under .300 just one time in his entire career, just one season. He batted .289 his rookie year and then went on to hit over .300 every season after that. That's some trick. lol Actually, its beyond amazing.
A PM to Jay would have been more effective.I was thinking the same.
He asked Jay and 200 rail birds including me respond.
We are all experts-just ask us!!
Honestly the collective knowledge that’s been here over the years IS pool, our culture.
Best
Fatboy
CanadianGuy
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Filler and Gorst indeed appear to be another level at the moment, I see Yapp right behind them
and I keep waiting for the day Jayson Shaw dominates all, clock is ticking on that one, the dude's talent is unreal
and I keep waiting for the day Jayson Shaw dominates all, clock is ticking on that one, the dude's talent is unreal
This is more fun!
with help from the clear….
Actually I think Jay is on biz in NYC this week.
Also....he wasn’t a draft dodger...he stayed and faced the music.
The draft dodgers came up to Canada.