Where do you hit the object ball when its frozen on the rail on the second diamond of the long rail? trying to come across the table to get to the next frozen ball on the next diamond. I’m aiming pretty much edge to edge, with a little left spin, and i either miss the shot, or scratch in the side pockey. This drill is killing me, i watch the videos and the ball moves so easily across the table and into position for the next ball. But not for me. Driving me nuts. Is edge to edge the right approach? Hit it thicker? Or thinner. Is this A draw stroke, or a stun stroke? Or a normal stroke. Thanks for any info.
Frozen rail drill is driving me nuts!
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maaudiosubs
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I'm trying this drill to. Saw it on jennifer barrettas page. The 2nd diamond balls kill me. Only got 3 of 4 so far. I was told to aim at the ball like the rail isn't there. It's tuff but try that.
boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
If you can give us a link or post a pic of it we might be able to help. Many here are willing to help but not to do all the legwork. I have no idea what her page is, is it a website, facebook, instagram, etc. Seriously, throw us a bone and we'll see if we can help!
Just keeping it simple. Shoot the one in the corner pocket, come across table to shoot the two ball into the same pocket. Get position after going across table to shoot the three ball in the same pocket. I am always scratching into the side pocket after shooting the 2 ball.
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maaudiosubs
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If you can give us a link or post a pic of it we might be able to help. Many here are willing to help but not to do all the legwork. I have no idea what her page is, is it a website, facebook, instagram, etc. Seriously, throw us a bone and we'll see if we can help!
Jennifer Barretta on Instagram: "Frozen Ball Drill 🥶 #poolbillard #drillbabydrill #practicemakesperfect @predatorcues"
1,939 likes, 43 comments - jennbarretta on May 16, 2022: "Frozen Ball Drill 🥶 #poolbillard #drillbabydrill #practicemakesperfect @predatorcues".
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Since that's the shot you have trouble with, shoot only that shot for a while. Pick a typical location for the cue ball, such as the center spot. Pick a spot on the right side rail, pocket the 2 and send the cue ball to that spot. Work on that shot until you can send the cue ball pretty close to the spot you picked. Then pick a different spot, and do the shot until you have that spot mastered. Put the nine ball in front of the side pocket and see if you can make the billiard consistently.
With that shot you should be able to send the cue ball from the 2 ball to most of the right side cushion. You will need both left and right english.
As for frozen ball drills in general, I think they are not a good way to spend your practice time. How often do your runs end in a game because you have two consecutive frozen balls to play and you can't do it? Work on the shots that stop your runs.
I was thinking the same thing bob. I seldom even get frozen ball shots in my practices. But it seems like once i try to do a drill, and fail so badly, i want to get it right. Almost becomes a obsession. And then i started to get frustrated, and kept getting deeper and deeper into a mental block. Yes, i will spend my time more wisely. But i have already gotten some good advice here. Thanks again.
sounds good
not an instructor- but I think it's useful to try things we're not used to, even if only to learn
depending on where exactly the cb is at, I see a few options
one is trying to miss the side pocket by hitting with it low and a bit of left/outside
I think you have to hit it kind of firm to get the cb all the way back to the three
I also see trying the ball with inside spin, and coming out two rails for the three
anyway, I guess you're only limited by your imagination/physics
try something wild, and see what happens! I plan to try this one tonight, thanks ^_^
Learn to hit the BALL. More concisely, learn center ball shot alignment. This will centralize your shotmaking.
I think with frozen balls it isn't so much where you hit them, it's when. Hit the ball and the rail at the same time and they will go.
tomatoshooter
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Good point, especially in a rotation game, that's a pretty rare layout. In 8 ball you should hopefully either have another ball to play position for or a shot to break up the problem. You can solve the problem with your head, not the cue ball.
Kinda, but cushion contact and ball contact are offset in space and difficult to aim properly. Advocates of these simple cinching approaches rely on pocket slack to confirm the validity of both the method and the advocate. Better to learn how to hit a ball accurately first. When cushions are added, they will serve as guides to the pocket.
You stated your first part of the problem is making the ball. On these shots it is easier to shoot harder so the cue ball hits the rail first and slides in to the object ball. If you do not know if you are hitting too thick or too thin, move the object ball off the rail 2 inches and give it a try. This makes it easier to see your faulty aim.
Secondly, it is easier to control your cue ball with high or low English than it is to use side spin.
I am not an instructor but have 65 years of pool experience.
Secondly, it is easier to control your cue ball with high or low English than it is to use side spin.
I am not an instructor but have 65 years of pool experience.
That's the right answer. No matter how you hit the CB for shape, hit the OB as if the rail isn't there (ignore the rail for aiming purposes). Don't worry about whether the CB hits the rail first or not - that'll take care of itself.
pj
chgo
This is one of the best shots to improve you shot making precision.
I didn't see Jennifer try to get position on those balls in that order. If you notice, she's kind of going with the flow in her drill. It looks like you're trying to do something that's very low percentage. It's extremely difficult to avoid the cross-side scratch from that angle for the position you are trying to get. Most players wouldn't even attempt to shoot the shot that way in a game situation.
Try it with the balls slightly off the rail (maybe a half ball or a ball). Aiming those is easier without the rail confusing things. and that way of hitting them works when you go back to the on-the-rail method too (aim as if the rail isn't there). Sidespin results will be slightly different (probably getting more CB angle change).
pj
chgoi
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chgoi
WobblyStroke
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When struggling with a particular shot it often helps to spend a few minutes getting back to basics....
1. Make the ball with a rolling ball and see the natural angle.
2. Make the ball with a sliding ball and see the tangent line position.
3. Introduce low and high spin to adjust QB path using 1 and 2 and baselines to adjust off of.
4. Introduce sidespin to fine tune the paths you discovered in 1-3.
Hit these shots over and over until you KNOW what the cue ball will do when you hit the shot that way. There are usually a few different combos of speed and spin you can use to achieve certain positions. Def worth playing around with.
1. Make the ball with a rolling ball and see the natural angle.
2. Make the ball with a sliding ball and see the tangent line position.
3. Introduce low and high spin to adjust QB path using 1 and 2 and baselines to adjust off of.
4. Introduce sidespin to fine tune the paths you discovered in 1-3.
Hit these shots over and over until you KNOW what the cue ball will do when you hit the shot that way. There are usually a few different combos of speed and spin you can use to achieve certain positions. Def worth playing around with.