Question: Nine-ball leaves the table and winner can't be identified on a bar table

[RubixOne]

So you are playing nine-ball on a bar table (the kind of table where you need to pay to play a game), and you sink the 9-ball, but by some stroke of bad luck, by the time someone notices this, the winner cannot be identified. What happens next?

Note that spotting the 9-ball is not an option here, since sunk balls are inaccessible without paying again.

 

[ChrisinNC]

So you are playing nine-ball on a bar table (the kind of table where you need to pay to play a game), and you sink the 9-ball, but by some stroke of bad luck, by the time someone notices this, the winner cannot be identified. What happens next?

Note that spotting the 9-ball is not an option here, since sunk balls are inaccessible without paying again.

That’s not bad luck, that’s having too many drinks! I would say you either split it 50/50 on paying for the next game and then replaying the game, or at that point, if there are still a number of balls on the table, both players agreeing to designate the highest numbered remaining ball on the table as the winning ball.

 

[Cuedup]

Seems like one of those issues that you both laugh off and rack them back up. If that's not an option, quit playing with nits.

 

[RubixOne]

So basically stalemate. I should update Diamondball's rules to account for this. Thanks for answering the question.

 

[Hits 'em Hard]

Note that spotting the 9-ball is not an option here, since sunk balls are inaccessible without paying again.

Use the 10 ball as a replacement for the 9 ball. But hell, if you can’t remember when the 9 was made by looking at the adjoining balls in the window. Then how do you remember whose turn it is?

 

[telinoz]

Alcohol is one hell of a drug

 

[Bob Jewett]

Use the 10 ball as a replacement for the 9 ball. ...

If this is not immediately obvious to anyone, they should not be playing 9-ball on a bar box.

I spent a night watching a friend of mine trim the suckers in a 9-ball ring game at an all-night bar. When the 9 was made early, you just racked up any nine balls and continued. The players had no trouble with the ball order as the 5 and 13 were still orange. It was a proper bar table with a giant cue ball. Follow is your friend.

 

[ideologist]

If this is not immediately obvious to anyone, they should not be playing 9-ball on a bar box.

I spent a night watching a friend of mine trim the suckers in a 9-ball ring game at an all-night bar. When the 9 was made early, you just racked up any nine balls and continued. The players had no trouble with the ball order as the 5 and 13 were still orange. It was a proper bar table with a giant cue ball. Follow is your friend.

Follow for dough!

 

[Dead Money]

So you are playing nine-ball on a bar table (the kind of table where you need to pay to play a game), and you sink the 9-ball, but by some stroke of bad luck, by the time someone notices this, the winner cannot be identified. What happens next?

Note that spotting the 9-ball is not an option here, since sunk balls are inaccessible without paying again.

Two options:

1) Scrap that game because both players should have noticed the 9 ball was pocketed.

2) Use one of the balls # 10-15 in place of the 9 ball...spot it and play on. No harm no foul.

++ consider a cab or friend for a ride home for both players.

 

[hang-the-9]

If this is not immediately obvious to anyone, they should not be playing 9-ball on a bar box.

I spent a night watching a friend of mine trim the suckers in a 9-ball ring game at an all-night bar. When the 9 was made early, you just racked up any nine balls and continued. The players had no trouble with the ball order as the 5 and 13 were still orange. It was a proper bar table with a giant cue ball. Follow is your friend.

I would not judge this too quickly LOL, I know off the top of my head at least two games I played in against other good players where we shot a few balls in and then noticed the 8 or the 9 was missing

 

[Bob Jewett]

I would not judge this too quickly LOL, I know off the top of my head at least two games I played in against other good players where we shot a few balls in and then noticed the 8 or the 9 was missing

And then there is the video of a pro match where both players seemed to think a ball had gone in on the break when in fact one had just hung up. The breaker continued to shoot -- I don't remember if he got a break-and-run.

 

[hang-the-9]

And then there is the video of a pro match where both players seemed to think a ball had gone in on the break when in fact one had just hung up. The breaker continued to shoot -- I don't remember if he got a break-and-run.

It's on the great shots AccuStats video, the announcers were talking about it since the official game was "won" by the breaker but since they did not pocket a ball they had no idea how to mark it up for the statistics. Technically it was a dry break, but then a run out LOL, so how do you mark that?

 

[Bob Jewett]

It's on the great shots AccuStats video, the announcers were talking about it since the official game was "won" by the breaker but since they did not pocket a ball they had no idea how to mark it up for the statistics. Technically it was a dry break, but then a run out LOL, so how do you mark that?

I suppose you have to call it a moist break. Might be a special kind of B&R. Technically, the foul is the breaker shooting the 1 ball but that foul is forgiven if nothing is said as soon as he shoots at the 2.