The first pool AI

The math does work but is WAY more complicated than the participants in this thread seem to acknowledge. Pool is about as close to "Chaos Theory" as you can get. While the math is possible, the possible permutations are nearly infinite.

The attached link, while a bit outside of the scope of this conversation shows just how complicated the math is if you want to reduce pool play to a science and no longer an "art"...

 
justnum said:
I will make the next post more academic, it will likely be end of day tomorrow.
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Don't bother, you aren't fooling anyone here, except maybe Danny. And you should really be ashamed of taking advantage of his condition.
 
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logical said:
You need to get a grip. An app that could scan and digitize a pool table and then analyze options is 1/1000 as sophisticated as common software used in thousands of design studios and manufacturing facilities. It would be 1/100,000 as capable as the software used in today's enhanced driver assist systems used by Tesla, Ford, GM and others. It would be 1/1,000,000,000 as sophisticated and capable as the systems already used by every developed nation's military.
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Exactly this. With good imagery, to scan a table and fix a position for each ball isn't difficult. To determine makeable shots isn't difficult. To pick the easiest shot isn't difficult. Picking which of the makeable shots is best for position on the next two balls starts to get complicated, but is certainly manageable. Difficult to make it as good as an experienced player, but easily manageable at a basic player level, and there are many examples of this already - see the software Billiard/Snooker games out there now that allow a human player to play against the computer.

That Justnum would think this is top-secret confidential shows he doesn't know much about mathematics, or top secrets.
That Justnum would think there is "software that only mathematicians can write and code." shows shows that Justnum doesn't know much about writing code.

Yes, he needs to get a grip.
 
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From what I am notice the pool community has money, but no one has the connection to anyone capable of AI development. That means my price is going up.
 
justnum said:
From what I am notice the pool community has money, but no one has the connection to anyone capable of AI development. That means my price is going up.
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So how many did you sell at $1000?

Do you really believe anyone outside your family believes you know the first thing about AI? We've seen the videos of you randomly stabbing wires in a block trying to get an LED to glow and watched you tie socks to a cue to improve the grip. I honestly don't think you could develop a tic tac toe game from scratch.

And you still have about 6 unanswered questions to address from people who took time to join your thread.

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logical said:
So how many did you sell at $1000?

Do you really believe anyone outside your family believes you know the first thing about AI? We've seen the videos of you randomly stabbing wires in a block trying to get an LED to glow and watched you tie socks to a cue to improve the grip. I honestly don't think you could develop a tic tac toe game from scratch.

And you still have about 6 unanswered questions to address from people who took time to join your thread.

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I am not selling it and then having it reversed engineered. Only serious buyers will be considered.
 
justnum said:
A person that doesnt play pool can use the app and look like they shoot the right shot.
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This is a fallacy. The person who does not play pool cannot roll the CB down a line that makes contact with the intended OB within 5 millimeters of the ideal contact position. Most of the shots require precision to better than ½mm. It simply does not mater whether you know what shot to take (or not) if you can't get the CB within 5mm of where it needs to go.
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Anyone goes from non pool player to having an opinion on the shot.
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Mostly wrong
justnum said:
That is similar to most intelligence systems, it crunches data and provides options.
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Options the non-player cannot perform.
justnum said:
Th diagrams indicate the math is real, it appears to be doing a nearest neighbor search. It looks like its not set up for banks or kicks, but you have to buy it to find out.
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The math is real the ability to roll the CB down the correct line is not.
 
MitchAlsup said:
This is a fallacy. The person who does not play pool cannot roll the CB down a line that makes contact with the intended OB within 5 millimeters of the ideal contact position. Most of the shots require precision to better than ½mm. It simply does not mater whether you know what shot to take (or not) if you can't get the CB within 5mm of where it needs to go.

Mostly wrong

Options the non-player cannot perform.

The math is real the ability to roll the CB down the correct line is not.
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You've acknowledged the crux of his mission: to engineer a good pool game.

As you've indicated, pretend pool fails to succeed because of its inability to include the execution aspect.

His pretend game could exist without all the complications he inserts. He could just pretend he put up a fight against an actual opponent .

Cut to the chase, yuhknow?
 
MitchAlsup said:
This is a fallacy. The person who does not play pool cannot roll the CB down a line that makes contact with the intended OB within 5 millimeters of the ideal contact position. Most of the shots require precision to better than ½mm. It simply does not mater whether you know what shot to take (or not) if you can't get the CB within 5mm of where it needs to go.

Mostly wrong

Options the non-player cannot perform.

The math is real the ability to roll the CB down the correct line is not.
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Good point the AI will show diagrams on where to strike the cue ball and how to tell if you hit it right.
 
logical said:
You are talking nonsense again. There is nothing to sell, nothing to reverse engineer, no buyers...fake like your money.

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Your now part of the conspiracy, the pool ai is codeword for missile guidance system. There are definitely some interested parties in seeking alternatives to the monopoly certain companies have when it comes to guidance systems.
 
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