Push Out Order in Scotch Doubles?

[Bob Jewett]

... I realize all this stuff should be clarified before the match or scotch doubles tournament starts, but just wondered what the standard scotch double rules are for push out order, if there even are any?

Was the earlier thread of any help?

 

[ChrisinNC]

Was the earlier thread of any help?

Bob, yes, thanks. We don’t have many scotch doubles competitions in here, but next time we do, I can clearly explain to all the players beforehand the push out order as stated in the current CSI rule / handbook.

Also, we have always stuck to keeping the same order from one game to the next, but sounds like, as in CSI rules, allowing both teams the option to adjust their order at the start of every game might make it easier.

 

[spartan]

This makes more sense to me. If you push out, your turn at the table is not over until the incoming accepts the shot.

This is obviously more logical cos only player A who push out has in his "beautiful mind" what his push out strategy is based on his particular set of skills. It would be silly to expect his partner to exactly read player A's mind and replicate exactly player A's particular set of skills to make the shot exactly like player A.

 

[fastone371]

Yes,
If the braking player makes a ball and then pushes out, his inning is over, so the turn hands back to the scotch doubles partner.
If the braking player fails to make a ball, the opposing team pushes out, the braking player has already has his/her inning so control reverts to the scotch doubles partner.

That is one of the "crazy" aspects of scotch double play.

Sometimes that is the way the cookie crumbles.

The player who broke and made a ball would not be the one to push out if it were scotch doubles, the player who did not break on the breaking team would push out. The push out would be considered that persons shot, if the shot is returned the breaking player is now up to shoot. It helps to consider it a turn at the table instead of an actual shot when there is a push out or even handing a pushout back to the original team. After every persons "turn at the table" the turn or shot goes back to the other player.

 

[Jack Fate]

This thread & mine reminds me of a coworkers saying:
There aren’t many absolutes…
My wife played scotch doubles for years & did very well on a local level.
Me ,I only play *scotch if forced to, it actually makes me dislike pool

* I did have Norm Wines as a partner once and that was great