Nice pool room you've got there, Sir.Congratulations I have the same light absolutely love it!!
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Just watched the ’Hustler’ movie again on tv. I noticed the table lighting used at ‘Ames’ was the same I grew up with (3 low-hanging shaded incandescent bulb fixtures). I accept that equipment progression is inevitable (worsted cloth, resin composite balls, etc.), though I can’t help feeling that some historical limitations are a traditional part of the game that the legendary greats had to overcome. Shooting at a pink 4 ball, on blue cloth, with a fiberglass cue is far enough removed. The bright ‘daylight‘ LED lighting system would seem much like when the rack-boy at Ames inadvertently opened the window shade. Like the overhead wire score-string, the stereotypical dark ‘poolroom’ atmosphere I loved seems headed for oblivion.
This makes no sense. Why would you not want good lighting?
The blue in "white light" is supposedly bad for the eyes and that dingy orange incandescent look is better. Don't know if that has been addressed in pool lighting - don't much care I've always preferred white light from florescent on.
Agreeed. Too cool is a bad thing as well. 5000K is about right. I hope you are being sarcastic about the incandescent lighting.
Nope. Incandescent lighting is supposedly easier on the eyes. Then again, nobody buys lighting to stare at except for computer screens.
Incandescent is terrible for pool. All the colors are distorted and incandescent is traditionally dim making it hard to see the edge of the balls thus making it harder on the eyes. If it were superior, they'd be using it in pool rooms and professional events.Nope. Incandescent lighting is supposedly easier on the eyes. Then again, nobody buys lighting to stare at except for computer screens.
I said nothing about pool. In fact I rate Edison bulbs just above pitch blackness.
Myself personally (especially as my cataracts progress), I DO appreciate it. It’s just a nostalgia issue. Greenleaf & Mosconi seemed to manage ok somehow under traditional lighting. No matter how well I ever played under modern lights, I would always feel like I had an unfair advantage in comparison (not that I’m anxious to go back to carded cloth & mud balls though….can’t turn back the clock).
If given the choice, I can say with a fair amount of confidence Greenleaf and Mosconi would have preferred modern lighting.
Just wanted to post an update. I checked with the company and they said while the light would work with a dimmer they do not recommend it as it would shorten the lifespan of the LED's. The good news is after a few days playing with the change I have gotten used to them and don't even think about them when I'm playing. Still love the new light!
Have you installed a dimmer yet?
I'm looking for someone who has found a switch suitable for these lights that does not burn them out.
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So I was at this dude's house and he had perimeter-style LED's lights and the balls threw square shadows. Now I understand why they do that but there was something distracting about round balls that had square shadows.
The ironic thing is I was there to buy his 2yr old 9FT Diamond light he replaced with the perimeters.
With that Diamond, the balls have small round shadows pooled underneath them and I now have the sneaky sensation that I got the better deal...
The ironic thing is I was there to buy his 2yr old 9FT Diamond light he replaced with the perimeters.
With that Diamond, the balls have small round shadows pooled underneath them and I now have the sneaky sensation that I got the better deal...
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I have played on a GC 5 that had a perimeter light above it...the rectangle reflections that presented on the balls I found very distracting, Below is a pic of my GC1 that has a solid 8' by 2' led (5000k) over it. A solid led like mine presents less distracting reflections on the balls and has NO shadows reflected onto the table other than a small one beneath the ball.. I just don't understand logically speaking how you could improve on that. BTW, my lite I purchased and constructed for less than...... $ 125....
Prior to led lights, the incandescents and floresents all presented reflections on the balls and shadows on the table....I fear we might be regressing with this perimeter light fad...and an expensive fad it is, indeed....JMHO
Prior to led lights, the incandescents and floresents all presented reflections on the balls and shadows on the table....I fear we might be regressing with this perimeter light fad...and an expensive fad it is, indeed....JMHO
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Looks good! How many Lumens? Do you know the CRI?
I fully understand where you come from. I have an old school 4 light fixture that kinda matches the table time period, and I like it that way. It works fine, shots missed are my own fault, not lighting. Nothing against those in pursuit of perfection and I’m somewhat interested in this perimeter light upgrade as well. Although I think I’ll hold off until you guys have worked out all the bugs. Needs a diffuser in my opinion, or at least a better one. With the 4 light old school you can install low enough that sitting in a stool and watching my opponent take my lunch money is not uncomfortably bright to me.
Thanks...7800 lumens.....CRI is 85....