perimeter light

JolietJames

Boot Party Coordinator
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So I was at this dude's house and he had perimeter-style LED's lights and the balls threw square shadows. Now I understand why they do that but there was something distracting about round balls that had square shadows.

The ironic thing is I was there to buy his 2yr old 9FT Diamond light he replaced with the perimeters.

With that Diamond, the balls have small round shadows pooled underneath them and I now have the sneaky sensation that I got the better deal...
The square shadows are a mind-blower for me too.
I have my table in the basement with a drop ceiling. I felt the perimeter light was my best chance to have a light as high as I could get it.
 

JolietJames

Boot Party Coordinator
Silver Member
No - decided to follow the advice of the company and not use one. I have been playing with them for a while now and have gotten used to them so don't think I'll bother now. Amazing difference when playing.
I am used to the bright light too, which is the problem. It takes longer for me to adjust to other tables because none of them are as bright as mine.
I feel like I'm playing in a dungeon when I go to either pool hall in town.
 

Benelli

Active member
The square shadows are a mind-blower for me too.
I have my table in the basement with a drop ceiling. I felt the perimeter light was my best chance to have a light as high as I could get it.
Honestly, perimeter lights are just plain gorgeous, I love the look of them.

But now having a full week playing under this diamond, I'm positive I could not shift to a perimeter-style unit...

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Tables should have square shadows, not balls!!
 

j2pac

Marital Slow Learner.
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Just put up my new perimeter light and I love it so much I thought I would post a couple pictures of it. It is not a Predator Arena light - I have a 9 ft table and it would cost almost $2000 USD. I got mine from Perimeter Billiard lights for $640 CDN. It is very bright so I am going to put in a dimmer switch. The difference from my old light is amazing. Highly recommend to anyone thinking about getting one.
Looks very nice. 😎
 

jtompilot

AzB Silver Member
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I have played on a GC 5 that had a perimeter light above it...the rectangle reflections that presented on the balls I found very distracting, Below is a pic of my GC1 that has a solid 8' by 2' led (5000k) over it. A solid led like mine presents less distracting reflections on the balls and has NO shadows reflected onto the table other than a small one beneath the ball.. I just don't understand logically speaking how you could improve on that. BTW, my lite I purchased and constructed for less than...... $ 125....

Prior to led lights, the incandescents and floresents all presented reflections on the balls and shadows on the table....I fear we might be regressing with this perimeter light fad...and an expensive fad it is, indeed....JMHO
Nice room. Where are you now?
 

darmoose

Shutin@urhole is OVERATED
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Nice room. Where are you now?
Hi Jim,

Still in Maryland near Annapolis. I just put this GC1 in my back sunroom and love it. Playing some OP with my local guys. Haven't traveled to any tournaments for awhile. Thanks for your comment. Hope to see you in the near future. I might try thr Memphis outing next time around.. take care
 

ironmaiden

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I've done a fair amount of research on perimeter light options. The Predator's with color and dimming options run $1,350 US for the 9' version ($1,500 all in here in Texas).

The knockoffs don't have color or dimming options and are about $600 US. They also have light bleeding issues at all the joints and a lot of excess wiring above the fixture to deal with.

I found some nice looking lights on Amazon. They are color adjustable (stepless) from 3000K to 6000K, dimmable (stepless) from 10% to 100%, height adjustable, have no wiring between fixtures, and no light bleed issues. I bought six of the four foot lights and one of the four corner light sets. This will net a 9' x 5' perimeter light. I'm putting this on an 8' table. I believe the ability to dim these down will eliminate the ultra bright rectangle that appears on top of the balls. Total cost for my setup shipped was $560 US. Once I get them installed this weekend I'll upload some photos of the finished product.

Links:
4 foot light
4 corner set

Turns out someone else had tried the same thing. The excess cable above the light is part of the height adjustment feature. This excess cable could be trimmed off or zip tied for a neater appearance.
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Island Drive

Otto/Dads College Roommate/Cleveland Browns
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I purchased this fixture new for a little over $100.
Your selection of bulbs is huge.
I had these fixtures in my 9 table billiard room.
I prefer those seated on high stools, to not have glare in their face.
This is important in a billiard room, glare tends to have your patrons leave sooner.
Also, the rooms front windows were street level, so when you drove by, the lit up green shades spoke.

I do like allot of the newer lights, and recently found out, the set up I have, only seem to have the three light fixture ones.
 

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ironmaiden

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I have a 3 fixture brass light I picked up off Craigslist for free and restored. I believe it's an antique because of the heavy build quality. It has very large shades that are about 24 inches wide at the openings. It is 8 foot long end to end. It looks very nice when lowered to about 31 inches above the table.

The only problem with that light is the brass doesn't match the decor in my new house (nickel and stainless).

The perimeter lights are typically mounted higher. To avoid glare you can order the honeycomb filter and lower them closer to the table.

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The perimeter light gives a more even light and allows for a projector or camera to be mounted overhead center. This is good for recording videos and for using any of the apps that can project practice patterns onto the table.
 
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ironmaiden

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Lights installed! Exceeded my expectations!
 

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ironmaiden

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There are 480 LED'S per 4 foot section and 92 LED's per corner. 3,248 LED'S total. I ended up with 3 remote controls. The remotes are radio frequency so no need to have line of sight to the lights. Back to the table restoration....
 

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straightline

AzB Silver Member
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The square shadows are a mind-blower for me too.
I have my table in the basement with a drop ceiling. I felt the perimeter light was my best chance to have a light as high as I could get it.
What happens if you mount the lights to a board you can hang above the table? There must be configurations with no shadows. (?)
 

JolietJames

Boot Party Coordinator
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What happens if you mount the lights to a board you can hang above the table? There must be configurations with no shadows. (?)
I have the light mounted about 2" below the ceiling. I can't get it any higher. The shadows are no worse than with regular lighting, they are just square.
The light is so bright they hardly matter. One day I hope to find a dimmer switch that will work with it so I can practice with similar conditions as where I play when I'm out.
 

JolietJames

Boot Party Coordinator
Silver Member
I purchased this fixture new for a little over $100.
Your selection of bulbs is huge.
I had these fixtures in my 9 table billiard room.
I prefer those seated on high stools, to not have glare in their face.
This is important in a billiard room, glare tends to have your patrons leave sooner.
Also, the rooms front windows were street level, so when you drove by, the lit up green shades spoke.

I do like allot of the newer lights, and recently found out, the set up I have, only seem to have the three light fixture ones.
I used the smoke-colored version of those for years. They worked great once I painted the insides of the shades white.
 

straightline

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
I have the light mounted about 2" below the ceiling. I can't get it any higher. The shadows are no worse than with regular lighting, they are just square.
The light is so bright they hardly matter. One day I hope to find a dimmer switch that will work with it so I can practice with similar conditions as where I play when I'm out.
Somehow I have this idea that tracklighting facing inward all around the perimeter would eliminate shadows. (?)
 

Clusterbuster

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Just put up my new perimeter light and I love it so much I thought I would post a couple pictures of it. It is not a Predator Arena light - I have a 9 ft table and it would cost almost $2000 USD. I got mine from Perimeter Billiard lights for $640 CDN. It is very bright so I am going to put in a dimmer switch. The difference from my old light is amazing. Highly recommend to anyone thinking about getting one.
I got that same light as did my brother. I second your recommendation. It’s incredible. I can’t see how the more expensive lights could be any better. Great value.
 
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