Starrett 8 or 12

9 foot Gold Crown will have to be close enough.

Talking shit is all you know. Nothing has changed.
I just assembled a 9ft Murrey 3 piece slate pool table yesterday. Only used the 2 slate screws at both ends of the slates to mount them to the frame, no other slate screws were used. Leveled the slates to the frame using 1 3/4" x#12 wood screws, can you do the same????? Let me know when you can, then maybe you'll be on my level of expertise! Until then, don't try telling me what works and what don't work!!!
 
Talking shit is all you know. Nothing has changed.
This is YOUR problem, you want the credit of being called a pool table mechanic with your LIMITED experience, and feel you know enough about the trade to be an expert about what you’re talking about, but if someone DON'T agree with you, then THEY are the problem!! What do YOU do for a living on a daily basis????? That says it ALL right there!!!
 
9 foot Gold Crown will have to be close enough.

Talking shit is all you know. Nothing has changed.
Wasn't this some of your work you posted? With the staples cleanly visible in front of the pocket, holding the cloth in place? Very amateurish work right there, but hey, maybe I got your work mixed up with someone else that does work like you do, who knows! Have you actually show the work you do? That could go a long ways towards building your credibility to have some kind of idea as to what you're talking about!!
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Wasn't this some of your work you posted? With the staples cleanly visible in front of the pocket, holding the cloth in place? Very amateurish work right there, but hey, maybe I got your work mixed up with someone else that does work like you do, who knows! Have you actually show the work you do? That could go a long ways towards building your credibility to have some kind of idea as to what you're talking about!!View attachment 695693
Yes, that was my work. I thought the pockets would cover them but I was wrong. It has since been fixed.

As for everything else, you are just not worth ruining my great day.
Happy Easter to you.
 
Does the cheaper one do the work just as well, though? I for one would actually want to know.
Anyone here have many different make levels that can chime in? How would we test their accuracy against each other?
No, they do not. Especially the very sensitive ones that were mentioned, those are a PITA.
 
Yes, that was my work. I thought the pockets would cover them but I was wrong. It has since been fixed.

As for everything else, you are just not worth ruining my great day.
Happy Easter to you.
This has nothing to do with Easter, happy Easter to you as well. It DOES how ever have to do with your claims of this trade not being rocket science, and the fact that had I NOT posted the flaws in your work, you'd have NEVER gone back and corrected it! So, sit back, take a seat, shut up and don't argue with me! What's good for you, is not the advice others seek out! Every table mechanic I know of uses the Starrett machinist levels, so that right there says it all, because not ONE of them is coming on AZB seeking the advice of others as to what's a the cheapest levels there is to use!! In other words, MAJORITY rules!!!
 
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Yes, that was my work. I thought the pockets would cover them but I was wrong. It has since been fixed.

As for everything else, you are just not worth ruining my great day.
Happy Easter to you.
This has nothing to do with Easter, happy Easter to you as well. It DOES how ever have to do with your claims of this trade not being rocket science, and the fact that had I NOT posted the flaws in your work, you'd have NEVER gone back and corrected it! So, sit back, take a seat, shut up and don't argue with me! What's good for you, is not the advice others seek out! Every table mechanic I know of uses the Starrett machinist levels, so that right there says it all, because not ONE of them is coming on AZB seeking the advice of others as to what's a the cheapest levels there is to use
Yes, that was my work. I thought the pockets would cover them but I was wrong. It has since been fixed.

As for everything else, you are just not worth ruining my great day.
Happy Easter to you.
And again, I'll ask you what you do for a living???
 
I stand by my recommendation, no matter how nasty and petulant Glen gets. The level I use is VERY accurate, and he has no evidence it is not.

No where did I say not to use a Starrett. I just said there are reliable alternatives, that's all. Use what you want.
 
I stand by my recommendation, no matter how nasty and petulant Glen gets. The level I use is VERY accurate, and he has no evidence it is not.

No where did I say not to use a Starrett. I just said there are reliable alternatives, that's all. Use what you want.
Why are you avoiding answering my question, what do you do for a living?? Are you to embarrassed to answer?
 
I stand by my recommendation, accurate, and he has no evidence it is not.

No where did I say not to use a Starrett. I just said there are reliable alternatives, that's all. Use what you want.
Buck. You believe in yourself and that’s all that counts. If your customers and friends are happy nothing else matters. Cannot argue or dispute your statements. However the thread simply asks what size Starrett is preferred. Nothing else. Please start a separate thread who likes what and why. Please... let’s stay on track
 
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If you are using the level for machining, then definitely go with Starett.

But you don't have to pay the top dollar if all you are using it for is pool tables.

This is what I have and it does the job perfectly!

Nakkaa 12 Inch Master Precision Level with Wooden Box Accuracy 0.0002"/10" for Checking the Straightness Parallelism The Surface of Machine Tools Equipment https://a.co/d/1PgLV3P
I would never own a level like that because it's entirely to sensitive for leveling slates, especially with the cloth installed! Just like I'd never use a Starrett 98-8 for leveling sensitive machinery like CNC machines, or anything like that!
 
I would never own a level like that because it's entirely to sensitive for leveling slates, especially with the cloth installed! Just like I'd never use a Starrett 98-8 for leveling sensitive machinery like CNC machines, or anything like that!
Yes. It is very sensitive. I use the razor blade shim method under a straight edge. I get it within +/- 1 graduation or so. Then move it to different areas of the slate to check for bows.

It's impossible to get all areas the same, but if they are within 3 or so across the area of the slate, it is golden. Any more then that and the slate needs work.

As for the staples that were showing, I pointed them out to the guy the day I installed them. He wasn't concerned...even a little bit. But I went back and told him it was bothering me, and I would feel better if I fixed them. My mistake... I owned it.
 
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Yes. It is very sensitive. I use the razor blade shim method under a straight edge. I get it within +/- 1 graduation or so. Then move it to different areas of the slate to check for bows.

It's impossible to get all areas the same, but if they are within 3 or so across the area of the slate, it is golden. Any more then that and the slate needs work.

As for the staples that were showing, I pointed them out to the guy the day I installed them. He wasn't concerned...even a little bit. But I went back and told him it was bothering me, and I would feel better if I fixed them. My mistake... I owned it.
When that level indicates floor movement, it becomes impossible to level a pool table. Floor movement will show up on the Starrett 98-8 but still have the bubble in the window for the most part.
 
Does the cheaper one do the work just as well, though? I for one would actually want to know.
Anyone here have many different make levels that can chime in? How would we test their accuracy against each other?

Machinery alignment was part of my job. I bought a few cheaper precision levels to compare to Starrett's 199. They were just as accurate, and a couple were actually built to be more sensitive. I used them when needed until I retired. Could you use them to level pool tables, sure, but they're at least ten times more sensitive, in most cases, than the 98's. You could be chasing your tail if you don't take their ultra precision into effect.
 
Machinery alignment was part of my job. I bought a few cheaper precision levels to compare to Starrett's 199. They were just as accurate, and a couple were actually built to be more sensitive. I used them when needed until I retired. Could you use them to level pool tables, sure, but they're at least ten times more sensitive, in most cases, than the 98's. You could be chasing your tail if you don't take their ultra precision into effect.
Not necessarily. You just do what I do. If the bubble is within 2 or 3 grads, it's good.
 
I can pound a nail with a screwdriver, tighten bolts with a pair of wisegrips or use whatever i have on hand to do what i have to. I’m pretty creative when i don’t have the proper tool but there is nothing like the right tool for the right job…
Slate manufacturers are given 0.005 per 6 ‘’ for tolerance…
The starret 98-8 is at 0.010 per foot… right on the money…makes it so easy


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You could probably let the bubble go almost out of sight and still be more accurate than a '98'.:alien:
Good luck with that. I'd be willing to bet you'd give up trying to level a Diamond 9ft ProAm before you get it level with that sensitive of a level, with a floor that moves the level as you stand there watching it.
 
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