9 Ball Tournament Rules?

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I am playing in a league using some type of "Texas Express" rules says the admin. On breaking the rack, the foot string corners do NOT count as a win if the 9 ball is
pocketed in either corner. The 9 ball is then spotted .................Question is who shoots next? Is it the breaker or his opponent?

He stated due to NOT calling a 9 ball when pocketing the 9 ball legally is similar. The nine ball is spotted. Same question......who shoots next? Both should be the same.

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Howard "blitzface" Berger
 
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In situation one, the breaker retains control. 9ball is spotted and breaker may shot or push.

Second is different. If the TD has set a rule for calling the 9ball, pocketing the 9 without calling it is a foul; therefore, the ball is spotted and the opponent has bih.
 
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NathanDetroit said:
In situation one, the breaker retains control. 9ball is spotted and breaker may shot or push.

Second is different. If the TD has set a rule for calling the 9ball, pocketing the 9 without calling it is a foul; therefore, the ball is spotted and the opponent has bih.
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Really? What if it goes in accidentally or consider the ball in play more likely and call that successfully?
 
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NathanDetroit said:
In situation one, the breaker retains control. 9ball is spotted and breaker may shot or push.

Second is different. If the TD has set a rule for calling the 9ball, pocketing the 9 without calling it is a foul; therefore, the ball is spotted and the opponent has bih.
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In most tournaments I've seen that have a rule to call the 9 ball, it isn't a foul if you make it without calling it- you just lose your turn unless you made another ball in which case you stay at the table and spot up the 9
 
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westcoast said:
In most tournaments I've seen that have a rule to call the 9 ball, it isn't a foul if you make it without calling it- you just lose your turn unless you made another ball in which case you stay at the table and spot up the 9
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This is definitely a confusing situation that always comes up. If you slop in balls 1 through 8, you can keep shooting. I think even if you slop in the 9 ball early it gets spotted and you keep shooting. However, if the 9 ball is the last ball on the table and you slop it in, you usually lose your turn and it gets spotted. Doesn't make much sense.
 
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Blitzface said:
I am playing in a league using some type of "Texas Express" rules says the admin. ...
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Does the admin have a printed set of the rules? It seems that they have made several local modifications including called 9 and the foot pocket business. Maybe there are other surprises.

The rules you are playing by seem different from any major tournament.
 
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I've played "no golden break", which means that the 9 ball is spotted is it goes into any pocket off the break. I think this is a good rule only in short race handicapped tournaments. Also you had to call the 9 or it doesn't count. In this situation you carried on if you made another ball but missed the 9 - this rule appears wrong to me as the game becomes "call shot" for that specific situation so in the true spirit of the game it should be loss of turn if you don't make the 9.
 
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Blitzface said:
I am playing in a league using some type of "Texas Express" rules says the admin. On breaking the rack, the foot string corners do NOT count as a win if the 9 ball is
pocketed in either corner. The 9 ball is then spotted .................Question is who shoots next? Is it the breaker or his opponent?

He stated due to NOT calling a 9 ball when pocketing the 9 ball legally is similar. The nine ball is spotted. Same question......who shoots next? Both should be the same.

Regds,
Howard "blitzface" Berger
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Whoever broke stays at the table. Made a ball on the break. Really the better rule to use is to have the 9 not be a win on the break at all in any pocket. If it's silly if it's made in the corner pockets, it's just as silly to have it randomly fall in some other pocket.

I have never seen a tournament ran with no 9 on the break turn over the break when one was made. Rules I have seen, and used, if 9 is a called shot at any point including the break: 9 made on break, spots and breaker keeps shooting - 9 made in middle of the game but not called, if it was the only ball made, it spots and the table turns over (since it is a called shot and if it's crapped in does not count), if another ball is made along with the 9, the 9 is spotted the shooter keeps shooting since another legal ball was pocketed.

The only called shot game off the break I know of that is common is straight pool. 8 ball is played called shot yet any ball on the break is OK. 10 ball is called shot, but again any ball on the break counts. That 9 going into a non-winning pocket is still a legally made ball off the break.
 
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