Anyone want some Cortland Cord....?

[ceebee]

Folks, here is the story. I'm not sure we can supply this cord at all. I am trying to get the company, to make the Pool World a few thousand feet, from yesteryears specifications. But, if the need or want isn't there, they probably won't listen to my request.

I've been around AZB for over twenty years. I came up with this idea & I'm working it. Will I succeed... who knows. It will be like a COOP project...

 

[Bavafongoul]

Folks, here is the story. I'm not sure we can supply this cord at all. I am trying to get the company, to make the Pool World a few thousand feet, from yesteryears specifications. But, if the need or want isn't there, they probably won't listen to my request.

I've been around AZB for over twenty years. I came up with this idea & I'm working it. Will I succeed... who knows. It will be like a COOP project...

It sounds like you are trying to get a firm to attempt reproducing something equivalent to Cortland Linen.
Best of luck with this project. The uniformity of the individual woven strands is what Cortland so unique
and relatively more expensive to produce versus other linen fishing lines of that era. Original Cortland is
so scarce nowadays that folks possessing some are reticent to sell any. I have 50 yards of brown speck
I was intending to put on my old Palmer cue but that particular cue is basically a closet queen so I never
got around to replacing the wrap. I’m a big fan of Cortland which is why I used it on many of my pool cues.

 

[jokrswylde]

Contact Pechauer cues. They told me that they bought the remaining stock of original cortland linen wrap. I had some put on a cue they refinished for me.


The Cortland wrap was the original wrap that was used on the Balabushka cues. Once they stopped making them we bought out all the remaining wrap. They also make a white with black spec Cortland. It’s not the one people are used to, but it’s the same wrap.



I’ll see what they cue looks like here, maybe give you an opinion then.

 

[Bavafongoul]

Pechauer Cues had a small supply and when I bought some #9 from them in 2016 for a cue underway,
Steve told Jerry R. they were intending to get very stingy about selling any more CL #9. The remaining
inventory was meant to be reserved for Pechauer Anniversary Cues and higher end custom orders. It
made sense because original CL is irreplaceable. There’s a finite amount left so once it’s gone, that’s it.

I recall some years back, another prominent forum member tried to get someone to reproduce CL line.
If I remember correctly, some spools were made but appearance and quality wasn’t quite the same as CL.
Here’s the rub. Linen fishing lines disappeared because synthetic fishing lines are sturdier and cheaper to
produce. So the demand for a linen fishing line is low and producing a special version can become costly.

The more people that want a linen wrap equivalent to CL only increases the potential of this actually coming
to fruition. So anyone interested in getting on board with ordering this new linen wrap should step forward &
let ceebee know they’d commit to buying some and the quantity they want. It’d be great if this came together.

 

[fjk]

Has anyone ever found the original manufacturer's specifications for fabrication? I bet someone that worked at the factory is still alive. Was it made in Cortland NY?

 

[Cuebuddy]

Has anyone ever found the original manufacturer's specifications for fabrication? I bet someone that worked at the factory is still alive. Was it made in Cortland NY?

Yes it was and still is in Cortland.

I have driven by the store countless times and even gone into antique stores in the area hoping to find some.

Funny thing was I found a full spool of Irish linen for $9.00.
Correct size and vintage, just a different brand.
It does not have the light green specks but is off white. I hope to put some on my vintage cues once I retire.

 

[ceebee]

I did contact Cortland & am sending a letter to someone on the board. I'm not sure yet how many 100 ft spools to ask for or if that is the correct number to ask for. Maybe someone can tell me. I did gather some other info that might interest Cortland on 2 fronts, but won't know until my questions are asked & answered. Too many cooks spoil the soup, so I was reluctant to give out too much info. But the Jig is Up...

 

[Bavafongoul]

I did contact Cortland & am sending a letter to someone on the board. I'm not sure yet how many 100 ft spools to ask for or if that is the correct number to ask for. Maybe someone can tell me. I did gather some other info that might interest Cortland on 2 fronts, but won't know until my questions are asked & answered. Too many cooks spoil the soup, so I was reluctant to give out too much info. But the Jig is Up...

I went down that same road a dozen years ago. I even communicated by email with a retired employee that was the
corporate historian for the company. I was only able to learn interesting tidbits about how the flax was selected and
operator involvement with the machinery., etc. Synthetic fishing lines eliminated any need for linen lines and Cortland eventually made the switch like everyone else. I think Blue Mountain previously tried to emulate CL as a special project.

 

[ceebee]

So, does anyone want to buy some cord, meaning paying more that it usually costs. Say the cord is $180 for 100 feet, to put the same as original cord on your cue, (specially made to original specifications for a 1 run sentimental application. As a group we could ask the company to offer this cord every 5 years at a sentimental gesture for them & us Players. It won't be free, but it will be Cortland #9 Cord. If I had a beautiful Cue, that would be a given...

 

[ipoppa33]

So, does anyone want to buy some cord, meaning paying more that it usually costs. Say the cord is $180 for 100 feet, to put the same as original cord on your cue, (specially made to original specifications for a 1 run sentimental application. As a group we could ask the company to offer this cord every 5 years at a sentimental gesture for them & us Players. It won't be free, but it will be Cortland #9 Cord. If I had a beautiful Cue, that would be a given...

I'm in

 

[ideologist]

Is it nylon?

 

[tim913]

Will 100 feet do a cue or 50 yd spool?

 

[bbb]

So, does anyone want to buy some cord, meaning paying more that it usually costs. Say the cord is $180 for 100 feet, to put the same as original cord on your cue, (specially made to original specifications for a 1 run sentimental application. As a group we could ask the company to offer this cord every 5 years at a sentimental gesture for them & us Players. It won't be free, but it will be Cortland #9 Cord. If I had a beautiful Cue, that would be a given...

i find this somewhat misleading
it will be a cortland 9 knock off
Noone knows how close to the original it will be
the same recipe made by 2 different chefs dont always taste the same ...just sayin
i think everyone that is jumping to say they want it
are committing to buying an unknown commodity
that being said
i hope its like the original
and wish you luck

 

[Michael Webb]

I did contact Cortland & am sending a letter to someone on the board. I'm not sure yet how many 100 ft spools to ask for or if that is the correct number to ask for. Maybe someone can tell me. I did gather some other info that might interest Cortland on 2 fronts, but won't know until my questions are asked & answered. Too many cooks spoil the soup, so I was reluctant to give out too much info. But the Jig is Up...

The single cue rolls sold today are about 50 yards per spool.

 

[fjk]

The single cue rolls sold today are about 50 yards per spool.

Thanks. How much does one cue need?

 

[Michael Webb]

Thanks. How much does one cue need?

It use to be approximately 33 yards, then some manufacturers made thier wrap sections longer.
A long long time ago,
(25 years)I use to break up 1 pound rolls and have them broken down to small single cue spools at the local textile mill, then wrapped to keep them clean. The extra cost was short money.

 

[Milkman]

I have decided to follow the industry and use the modern synthetic line. The local pool room is full of fish anyways.

 

[Bavafongoul]

So, does anyone want to buy some cord, meaning paying more that it usually costs. Say the cord is $180 for 100 feet, to put the same as original cord on your cue, (specially made to original specifications for a 1 run sentimental application. As a group we could ask the company to offer this cord every 5 years at a sentimental gesture for them & us Players. It won't be free, but it will be Cortland #9 Cord. If I had a beautiful Cue, that would be a given...

It will never be Cortland #9 or any Cortland. The fabrication process will different and so will the Irish flax.
That is not to say the new linen would not be satisfactory but referring to it as Cortland is really deceptive.

Whatever winds up being made, if it even happens, will simply be a substitute. I think it might have been
Mark K. @ Classic Cues that attempted to get a Cortland linen wrap reproduced but it wasn’t successful.

Best of luck with your efforts but referring to any other wrap being Cortland is a falsehood….Cortland like
maybe or deluxe braid or something like that but describing any new wrap as Cortland is just misleading.

 

[bbb]

i find this somewhat misleading
it will be a cortland 9 knock off
Noone knows how close to the original it will be
the same recipe made by 2 different chefs dont always taste the same ...just sayin
i think everyone that is jumping to say they want it
are committing to buying an unknown commodity
that being said
i hope its like the original
and wish you luck

It will never be Cortland #9 or any Cortland. The fabrication process will different and so will the Irish flax.
That is not to say the new linen would not be satisfactory but referring to it as Cortland is really deceptive.

Whatever winds up being made, if it even happens, will simply be a substitute. I think it might have been
Mark K. @ Classic Cues that attempted to get a Cortland linen wrap reproduced but it wasn’t successful.

Best of luck with your efforts but referring to any other wrap being Cortland is a falsehood….Cortland like
maybe or deluxe braid or something like that but describing any new wrap as Cortland is just misleading.

we agree

 

[Bavafongoul]

The single cue rolls sold today are about 50 yards per spool.

I posted a photo in one of my posts what a 50 yard spool of Cortland Linen looks like.
You need 50 yards to wrap a cue. It was also sold in bulk as a larger, spool which is
how most cue makers purchased it. There are very few spools of Cortland sold today.
The demand is there since it’s the best linen wrap for cues but there’s scant inventory left.