I thought I did, what did I miss?? It says there is no spotting, if incoming player doesn't have balls outside of kitchen too bad, so sad.
Why Do So Many Bar Room Recreational 8-Ball Players Cling to the Nonsense Outdated Rules?
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it was designed for GAMBLING. its like pool's version of craps. the intention was to have a fast moving action game not to prove who was the best player although the best player wins 99% of the time. nothing dumb about it.
The fact that I wrote, “too bad, so sad” as well as everything else I wrote in the ruleset should be enough. The ruleset is a parody. To call it a bad ruleset … it’s like having to explain a dad joke.
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WTF?? Go play a good player at it. Better player wins almost every time. At higher levels there's not that much luck involved. I hear this all the time from league 8b players that can't move their rock well. They get beat not from luck but because of lack of skill.
Over the long haul you are correct, but a lesser skilled player (than the others) can sometimes get lucky in ring games, if they get some fortunate rolls and they don’t get too greedy and get in/out at the right time, not unlike a poker game.
But the thing is this is some bangers actually play by rule sets shockingly similar. That's like the "no safety" rules, if I'm on the 8 with the 8 in the kitchen would it not be considered a safe to intentionally pocket the cue ball? For some reason the bangers don't consider that a safety but if I miss and hook my opponent they think I'm playing safe.
Yes, I know bangers play by rules like this. It’s all part of the parody. And it’s all part of this thread’s complaint.
Read my ruleset and just laugh about it, please. Give me feedback on what other ridiculous bar rule variances you’ve encountered.
Greg M
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That rule does my head in, but not as much as "no back-table while in the D".
The most ridiculous rule is having to call the ball going in "clean" or not. When I first heard it I thought they meant not hitting another ball, what they meant is that you had to call the rail or facing if the ball was going to contact it. They really wanted to get their money's worth out of those games.
It galls me to have to play barbox rules on full-sized pro equipment, but since that is how the locals learned (only rules/game they know)……..
Whatever. No safeties/best effort at local club tournaments, but when my opponent’s last ball is in the kitchen and there is no way for me to run out from my current leave, BUT I can pocket one of my balls and likely scratch simultaneously, sometimes the temptation to let Whitey go is just too much to resist
. Unfortunately, the better players sometimes make that two-rail kick shot from just above the headstring, since it comes up for them so often under bar rules, it likely gets practiced.
I’ve always felt that way about the ‘heads up’ pro game. I think it would be better entertainment if 5&9 ring game rules applied (game only ends when all the balls are pocketed). Instead of the # of racks won in a set, it would be total points scored over a prescribed # of games. That way, more than two players could compete in the same game simultaneously.
I joined the billiards group on Reddit recently and there are so many questions about rules like this it's ridiculous. It clearly shows how dumbed down people have become, we went from having to find a book for information, often at a library, to where anyone can look up anything anytime, and they can't even get that done LOL. The funny part is that many of the rules they are asking about are only word of mouth rules at bar tables, so the only correct answer to those questions is "no it's not a rule, here are the rules from these official organizations you can read". Who asks for confirmation for a rule set made up in the minds of those that learned from others that don't know the rules and get half-understood, it's a made-up rule, use made-up rulings to interpret them LOL.
I don't read the rules per se. Having knocked 'em around since I was a tweeny - prolly earlier if you're counting, I got the built in ruleset and the pool sense that develops as you learn the game. Course, technicalities come up that require detailing but I'll still filter them by relevance or stupidity.
its their bar and their rules play or not. i dont like ball in hand rules, but others do.
traditionally in bars you played to make whatever ball you shot at. and it worked without arguments. until better players from poolrooms come along and play safes that werent so obvious, but were obvious when they were going to win anyway.
there are pool room rules and barroom rules. play as they play or go to the pool room. where most of you cant beat anyone that will bet 5 dollars there.
traditionally in bars you played to make whatever ball you shot at. and it worked without arguments. until better players from poolrooms come along and play safes that werent so obvious, but were obvious when they were going to win anyway.
there are pool room rules and barroom rules. play as they play or go to the pool room. where most of you cant beat anyone that will bet 5 dollars there.
SeniorTom
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I don't have a lot of Billiards experience, but I'm a decent player, and I think this is a foolish comment. I say foolish because nine ball takes a lot of defensive skill to be successful at. If you don't think defense, 9 ball probably isn't for you. If you like to include defense in a Billiards game, which is just as important as offense, it's an excellent game.
It historically accurate.
It's a checkers game. It why pros play sets of 100 or more. They know the shorter the race the better chance the inferior player has.
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I think he’s referring to the ring game aspect of it rather than a blanket statement about 9-ball being a low skill game.
There is certainly much more framming and luck involved in a 9-ball ring game, even among the highly skilled players, when they have no reasonable shot.
Kinda funny you put it like that.
In my area they're all the same people, just at a different venue.