I would like to lighten my main shooter a little more and it can't be lightened any more via the weights in the butt. It has a stainless steel 3/8 X 10 pin. Can this pin be replaced with a G10 pin? If so, who could do this job for me?
Switching 3/8 X 10 to G10
- Thread starter RickLafayette
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Yes it can be done by a competent Cue maker or Repair mechanic.
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There is a local cue maker (Mike Derouen, Kelly cues) who has done some shaft work for me in the past but I doubt if he carries G10 pins. I will have to find a site where I can purchase one.
dendweller
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I've seen the 3/8 10 modified at Atlas Billiards.
The only G10 3/8 x 10 pins I saw at Atlas were "modified 3/8 x 10". I'm not sure if that would be the correct pin for my cue. I'm a little ignorant on all the variables when it comes to pins and joints.
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dendweller
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Yeah, that's all I saw too.
dendweller
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Cueman billiards has one called a martin, it says it's good with normal 3/8 10 tap, could be what you're looking for.
www.cuesmith.com
Joint Pins, Martin Style 3/8-10 - Cue Man Billiard Products
Has flat minor diameter for precise locating of shaft. Installs with normal 3/8-10 tap. *3/8-11 available on special order*
www.cuesmith.com
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The "modified" pin may take a slight modification on your shafts to fit or maybe not. Anyone who can change the pin can fix the shafts to fit right. Many aftermarket shafts always fit loose on your butt because they are made to not get stuck being too tight so they are too loose more often than not.
Having said that I prefer the anodized aluminum pins from Cue fits over g10 although you won't lose quite as much weight but close. If your old pin is just a straight threaded pin all the way down it won't be as heavy as a modified pin with a centering barrel but you will still lose .6-7 oz. The anodized pin with exact dimensions is almost an ounce lighter than the same stainless pin.
Having said that I prefer the anodized aluminum pins from Cue fits over g10 although you won't lose quite as much weight but close. If your old pin is just a straight threaded pin all the way down it won't be as heavy as a modified pin with a centering barrel but you will still lose .6-7 oz. The anodized pin with exact dimensions is almost an ounce lighter than the same stainless pin.
The 3/8x10 g10 screws were all for the modified. I've never seen one for the standard. I've seen them in titanium for the standard, i think they weighed around .05 or .06. Not sure if Atlas still has any.
I think a g10 in the standard size would be to brittle. Jmo
Yup, 3/8x10 standard in titanium 3 inches long .06.
Stainless 3 inches long 1.0
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Thanks for the info Mike. I'm taking a closer look at my pin and wondering if it's not actually aluminum. If it is it won't make much difference.
Easy task , if you were going from g-10 to Stainless Abit more work, however removing the stainless is an easy task for a competent cuemaker or repair man Please keep in mind, it is a drastic change, those pins differ in weight better than1 ounce Decide the balance point and the finished weight. There is a pin for this player however going from stianless to g-10 is both ends of the spectrum, he probbaly won't like it
How much weight reduction do you need?
1 oz is pretty big difference.
Titanium would knock half an oz. Much safer joint screw than G-10.
I mentioned that I now believe my pin might be aluminum and not steel. I need to check that out.
If it's alu, you stand to gain almost nothing.
I read that somewhere.
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A magnet test is too complicated.
What stainless is used in pins ? Some stainless alloys are slightly magnetic (ferromagnetic), others are not.
Dave
Lmao but I have to agree now.
I took a magnet to 10 different 3/8x10 screws. All weigh 1 oz. I don't know what supplier they came from. Got them on a deal.
But anyways
The magnet won't work on 2 of the 10. I have no idea why.
Heavy polished maybe.
I'm still laughing about it.
It's the alloy. Some (martensitic) are a little magnetic, others (austenitic) are not. Yes, I am a silly engineer with too much trivial "information" crammed into a very small brain.
The Difference Between Austenitic Stainless Steel and Martensitic Stainless Steel
Stainless steel fasteners are highly durable and can withstand extreme temperatures, making them suitable for use in a wide range of industries and applications. Some of the most common reasons for using stainless steel fasteners are their corrosion resistance, durability, aesthetics and strength.
www.mudgefasteners.com
It's good to laugh, one of my favorite pastimes. Hope all is well with you and you haven't been too hammered by snow.
Dave <-- also tries magnets on stainless just for fun
