How many would you bet on?
Jayson Shaw First Contracted Pro on WNT
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depends on the situation and location. would you had bet this kid to be in the final among these monsters:
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I think the 128 are guaranteed their place and some players may get seeded.
Can't see MR holding closed events away from their TV showcase events like the masters.
If it's anything like the USopen. The 128 are indeed seeded and the second half are random.
Guess that depends on how popular they can make the game.... The vast majority of PGA events don't have avenues for 'walk ons'. For the most part you'r either in the stable or in the cold
Actually most regular PGA events have Monday qualy's. The bigger events/majors don't but the regular weekly stuff have a few slots. You'll see like 12guys trying for 1-2 spots. Tough life at that level.
And also one or two sponsor's exemption slots. It's good for the game (but sucks if your ranking lands you just outside the bubble in those cases).
That's the thing. The WPA is the structure and the structure is the WPA. You eliminate the WPA, then the continental and national federations lose their Olympic-affiliation. You try to replace the WPA, the new thing becomes exactly what the WPA is today.
The current policy to suspend players for not sanctioning wasn't Ishaun's decision. It wasn't the WPA board's decision. They held a general assembly and the continental members voted it in. It's not like the WPA is operating as a separate entity with autonomy to make it's own decisions.
The WPA board is more responsible to execute the policy and direction set by what the continental federations vote for. So it's hard to see it implode at the scrutiny of the federations because everything that's happened to date is the intention of the federations. I would even bet in his most private inner feelings, Ishaun probably hoped for a different outcome, but as the face of the organization he's only in the position to represent what the official organizational policy is.
it was iirc far from unanimous. add to that, within the cont. federations that voted for there is dissent on national level. i suspect that at the next WPA assembly, we will see the bans rolled back
I've seen that too. We know the BCA voted no. I have no idea if any of the others voted no. I've seen the Belgium national federation letter dissenting the policy but couldn't say where others stand.
It seems to me the EPBF and ACBS have a strong interest with what they accomplish with the EuroTour, European Championships, Qatar, Asian Games, and Heyball. It's hard to gauge Australia, Africa, and South America but at the same time they seem less vested in the outcome here because MR doesn't seem to be in their backyard running events like they are in Europe and Asia, and they don't seem to be hosting prominent events themselves intending to draw top international players.
I do think it's likely to get rolled back but I don't think it'll be because EPBF and ACBS lose strength in their influence (destabilizing the balance of power inside the WPA to a degree that threatens its entire existence). It think the rollback will mostly be those two federations opting to backpedal because of how it affects their events.
EDIT: But note I know I'm just spewing speculation on my part. Just making a conversation of it.
I just love discussing this stuff. I learn so much. And even when I say something wrong and dumb, I like putting it out there to court the opportunity to be corrected and I learn something new.
It would make the most sense.
Pi$$ing on your own shoes is one thing.
Pi$$ing against the wind is something else!
We're all here on this planet to learn.
I hope the WPA can also learn. For the good of the game...
We saw that with the Fedor ban, that eventually the WPA was able to correct their terrible blunder in misunderstanding IOC guidance.
Likewise.
None of us really know anything. But it does make for good speculative conversation.
I mean. We are discussing the future of the sport we all love. If that doesn't invoke discussion, nothing ever will...
I don't agree that this is what happened. Let's recall that the ban came in about February 2022, and the World Games were only four months away. WCBS, more than likely, felt that anything that could have been interpreted as defiant at that moment in time could possibly endanger the inclusion of pool, snooker and carom in the World Games, all of which generate quite a lot of money for the national federations. WPA, pool's delegate to the WCBS, really had no choice but to follow the WCBS in this matter.
The fact that the decision to lift the ban came during a WCBS board meeting held during the World Games is noteworthy.
No doubt I'm being a bit speculative in this post, but I can't fault WPA for complying with the WCBS decision on the Russian ban, and I'm not buying that they misunderstood IOC guidance. I suspect they just took the path of least resistance.
Where I agree with you, however, is that once WCBS/WPA see that the recently proposed ban is bad for business, they'll likely backtrack. We shall see.
Guess it's in the details, my friend. I think he made a rushed, but reasonable, decision. His stance was no longer necessary once the World Games took place, however. As you suggest, his decision was one that he came to regret. I think we're on the same page here.
big chang, souquet, wu kun lin are some more names that wasn't obvious but that now choose MR.