ZAN tips must be REALLY good !!! WTF

buckshotshoey said:
Want to read something funnier? Read his reviews!
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I read a bunch, they were are just positive, not funny, so maybe I’m not reading what you did.

And the seller’s avatar says “Fun Gal” so not sure it’s a guy.

Browsed through the seller’s other listings, pretty interesting stuff… like a TAD cue for $18K with great pics but zero text description:

www.ebay.com

Tad Custom Cues 80 4 18 Mountain 2 Shaft 1 Inch Long 314 Level | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Tad Custom Cues 80 4 18 Mountain 2 Shaft 1 Inch Long 314 Level at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!
www.ebay.com
 
DeadStick said:
I read a bunch, they were are just positive, not funny, so maybe I’m not reading what you did.

And the seller’s avatar says “Fun Gal” so not sure it’s a guy.

Browsed through the seller’s other listings, pretty interesting stuff… like a TAD cue for $18K with great pics but zero text description:

www.ebay.com

Tad Custom Cues 80 4 18 Mountain 2 Shaft 1 Inch Long 314 Level | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Tad Custom Cues 80 4 18 Mountain 2 Shaft 1 Inch Long 314 Level at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!
www.ebay.com
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All the positive reviews and that way overpriced cue was the funny part. And how much do you want to bet its no gal.
 
buckshotshoey said:
All the positive reviews and that way overpriced cue was the funny part. And how much do you want to bet its no gal.
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eh, most ebay reviews are positive unless the buyer got screwed somehow, because buyers also want good reviews. They’re all verified buyers, so likely legit.

Regarding your proposal, no bet 😂
 
Flakeandrun said:
Personally, I don't like Zan tips at all. When I was going through Mezz shafts, prior to buying my Vigus, I ended up removing them every time (Hybrid pro, Hybrid pro 2, Expro... tried just about every Mezz shaft). In fact, the ILC shaft I now use on my Mezz for Chinese-8 has a Searing tip, and I hate to say it with the bad press aimed that way (and for good reason from my readings here), it does play really well.
My other Mezz shafts I switched out for Longoni Fuji tips which I was gifted. They play lovely, but are also overpriced... I only have the ExPro shaft now, and it's a backup to the Vigus which is my 'forever' cue.
The Musashi Shaft I use on my Vigus right now came with a Moori Medium which, to its credit and my surprise, has played fantastic from the first hit.
I like Mike Wooldridge tips, and will go back to them when change is needed.
I heard good things about Thoroughbred tips from someone on the forum, but when I tried to add their rep on WeChat, he never accepted it....
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The tips on the mezz shafts aren’t part of the premium line they are totally different. I like the premium soft. The zan hybrid max is a hard tip the edges are suppose to be softer than the center. I haven’t tried the grip hard I believe it’s called.
 
Zan tips are really good tips and as with Mezz cues, lead times on new batches on Zan tips have been long, but that eBay listing is just BS. I have all Zan tips in stock, so they are readily available, albeit in small quantities.
 
buckshotshoey said:
All the positive reviews and that way overpriced cue was the funny part. And how much do you want to bet its no gal.
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Everything that has to do with pool and is not from Japan is ultra overpriced in Japan. Cues cost 3-4 times more here than in the USA. One of the main reasons for this is that most Japanese do not speak English and therefore have no access to other markets.
 
Tadaimarlon said:
Everything that has to do with pool and is not from Japan is ultra overpriced in Japan. Cues cost 3-4 times more here than in the USA. One of the main reasons for this is that most Japanese do not speak English and therefore have no access to other markets.
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Might be true. But it's probably more to do with import taxes and duties.

As for speaking Japanese, doesn't every smart phone translate?
 
buckshotshoey said:
Might be true. But it's probably more to do with import taxes and duties.

As for speaking Japanese, doesn't every smart phone translate?
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Import taxes aren't that high here. You also won't find any website in Japan showing the actual price of the cue. Some sellers won't even tell you the price via Email, they call you on the phone and tell you the price there.
 
Kim Bye said:
Zan tips are really good tips and as with Mezz cues, lead times on new batches on Zan tips have been long, but that eBay listing is just BS. I have all Zan tips in stock, so they are readily available, albeit in small quantities.
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Do you have any ZAN premium soft and med. tips for sale? If so, how much are you charging?
Thanks, Michael
 
jbart65 said:
WTF says it all. Supply and demand thing. That’s It. Not indicative of the true value.
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True. It brings to mind when the original Moori Tips came out in the 90’s. I can recall a cue repair guy/maker familiar to many on here that wanted $50 for one installed almost 30 years ago.
 
tg_vegas said:
Sold all of mine, thanks guys !
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Like always, after I sold off all of mine due to no interest, then that is all anyone wanted. I couldnt get the Zan Hybrid Max tips for months after selling off all of mine for $20/tip. Like many, I've been waiting on allocation to get 2 tips per month from Mezz, now that is what the majority of my customers want, at $35/tip...
 
tg_vegas said:
Like always, after I sold off all of mine due to no interest, then that is all anyone wanted. I couldnt get the Zan Hybrid Max tips for months after selling off all of mine for $20/tip. Like many, I've been waiting on allocation to get 2 tips per month from Mezz, now that is what the majority of my customers want, at $35/tip...
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Heard anything about the Bulletproof play tips?
 
tg_vegas said:
Like always, after I sold off all of mine due to no interest, then that is all anyone wanted. I couldnt get the Zan Hybrid Max tips for months after selling off all of mine for $20/tip. Like many, I've been waiting on allocation to get 2 tips per month from Mezz, now that is what the majority of my customers want, at $35/tip...
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Good news is the constraint is apparently gone, was able to get as many as I wanted today, at $35 each.
 
I installed meanwhile lots of the Zan hybridmax tips and also a couple of Zan premium soft and Zan medium for other players, had these tips also on a couple of my own shafts and by this I was able collecting a bit of experience.

If it is going about the hardness the Zan tip seem to be pretty consistent, and the base character of the Zan seems thay they behave more elastic in comparison to lots of other layered tips, and as a matter of fact it is for many players easier to acchieve spin with the Zan tips. This is perhaps the reason why many players like them so much.

All Zan qualities I had on my own shafts worked very well and were also very durable over the time, no glazing and no big mushrooming. But my playing style is in general not too tip wearing. In comparison to most other players which I know, I have less mushrooming issues.

With the Zan tips that I installed for other players, I had a couple of strange experience which might point on certain quality problems. Most problem was a delamination of leather layers at premium soft and also at hybridmax. At a tip with such high prices this should not happen, and this is the reason why I stopped using them for my own shafts and I also do not recommend them to others anymore if they need an advice for a new tip.

Last but not least, I don't want to play with tips where the supply situation is not reliable, just this one issue is unacceptable, there are so many other similar cuetips that work very well, too.

There is one question: Can anyone explain me logically what is being done at Zan hybridmax to acchieve the feature that the hardness in the center of tip shall be higher than at the edges of the tip? I do not believe in this, to me the Zan hybridmax has a consistent hardness over the entire tip radius with a pretty high elasticity, but that's it from my point of view.
 
riedmich said:
I installed meanwhile lots of the Zan hybridmax tips and also a couple of Zan premium soft and Zan medium for other players, had these tips also on a couple of my own shafts and by this I was able collecting a bit of experience.

If it is going about the hardness the Zan tip seem to be pretty consistent, and the base character of the Zan seems thay they behave more elastic in comparison to lots of other layered tips, and as a matter of fact it is for many players easier to acchieve spin with the Zan tips. This is perhaps the reason why many players like them so much.

All Zan qualities I had on my own shafts worked very well and were also very durable over the time, no glazing and no big mushrooming. But my playing style is in general not too tip wearing. In comparison to most other players which I know, I have less mushrooming issues.

With the Zan tips that I installed for other players, I had a couple of strange experience which might point on certain quality problems. Most problem was a delamination of leather layers at premium soft and also at hybridmax. At a tip with such high prices this should not happen, and this is the reason why I stopped using them for my own shafts and I also do not recommend them to others anymore if they need an advice for a new tip.

Last but not least, I don't want to play with tips where the supply situation is not reliable, just this one issue is unacceptable, there are so many other similar cuetips that work very well, too.

There is one question: Can anyone explain me logically what is being done at Zan hybridmax to acchieve the feature that the hardness in the center of tip shall be higher than at the edges of the tip? I do not believe in this, to me the Zan hybridmax has a consistent hardness over the entire tip radius with a pretty high elasticity, but that's it from my point of view.
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Having sold and installed thousands of Zan tips, I have never had one delaminate. Sounds a lot like an installer issue to me..
By changing the layer hardness you can change the tip characteristics, noting magical about it. Zan, Kamui, Taom and several other do just that.
If you lay all Zan tips side by side, you will see they change drastically in height as they get higher on the hardness scale. I'll see if I can take a picture later today to illustrate.
 
I understand you, but I know how to install tips and I'm sure that the delamination is not caused by the installation.

With the thickness issue, it's the sam at the Kamui brown tips --> more compression during manufacturing of the tips will create harder tips. But Zan claims to have a different method, which I do not believe.
 
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