Dominant Eye before any aiming system
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snookered_again
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vision center might move if one tilts their head or rotates their eyeballs away from square ahead.. but I guess BBB is looking of r a direct response from Patrick , maybe in trying to make some point directly to him more clear,,
I tried to google "vision center" and it directs me to eye exam places.. ;-) Some interpret center and centre as meaning different things, and there are also differences in spelling from US to British...
I tried to google "vision center" and it directs me to eye exam places.. ;-) Some interpret center and centre as meaning different things, and there are also differences in spelling from US to British...
vision center is where your head position sees a straight line as a straight line
there are lots of articles and youtube videos on it
its not always or "often" under your dominant eye but usually near it
patrick want to nit pick on that
and for me under the dominant eye would be under the pupil of that eye
if under the dominant eye was the way to go
than instructors wouldnt bother with tests to find someones vision center
and just do the easy test of finding out which eye is dominant
if you look closely at the pics above and try to sight along the cuestick since most of the pictures are NOT straight on
you can see many ot the shooters have the stick heading towards the inner canthus of the dominant eye
THAT IS NOT DIRECTLY UNDER THE DOMINANT EYE
snookered again
you can pm me if you like to discuss it
patrick probably persist to prove his point
i would bet a dollar he doesnt answer my questions either
jmho
icbw
Yes, the vision center isn't always or even mostly under the dominant eye - but it often is. (P.S. "Often" doesn't mean "mostly", and "under the eye" doesn't mean "exactly under the pupil".)
Yes, if it's a choice then it's more important to have the cue in the vision center position than directly under the dominant eye. How does that affect the definition of "often"?
pj
chgo
yes i agree
snookered_again
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I think its a good excuse to video myself and see that way what I do naturally.. I know my left eye is way more dominant so I might turn my head to compensate somewhat and maybe that is just how i naturally react.. I'm also physically unable to close my left eye and not close my right eye.. most can close either eye, I can only wink by closing my right for some reason.. If its a disability, its a minor one I guess.. but it might be related.
thanks for the reply patrick
i owe you a dollar....
i am glad we agree on the pertinent points.....
i guess i need to google the definition of "often"......
You know....none of us are eye doctors.....Pool is the only sport (that I can find) that really calls out "vision center"....I really did not look too hard though.
I am heavy dominant left eye......What I find is that I can kind of see a "vision center" just right of my left eye....However...I get double vision from it and my eyes fight...(so to speak)
I find I align better directly off of my dominant eye and turn off my right eye....I sometimes squint my right eye to turn it off and find my alignment.
I do have different astigmatisms in the lens of both eyes so that adds to the challenge of focus.....life long struggle when it comes to pool.
I am heavy dominant left eye......What I find is that I can kind of see a "vision center" just right of my left eye....However...I get double vision from it and my eyes fight...(so to speak)
I find I align better directly off of my dominant eye and turn off my right eye....I sometimes squint my right eye to turn it off and find my alignment.
I do have different astigmatisms in the lens of both eyes so that adds to the challenge of focus.....life long struggle when it comes to pool.
boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
1, 2, 4, 7 all show the eyes angled towards the way the ball will be cut. 1 is a bank so it's more towards half way between the rail target and the far side pocket. Could it be that the pros know to slightly turn their heads toward the way the ball is cut to avoid optical illusions? Sure they are using their dominate eye but there is more going on. The other pics you can't really tell what they are trying to accomplish with the balls. The turn is slight so it's hard to tell if it's them favoring a dominate eye or if they are putting/turning their head in a way that the eyes don't fight for dominance.
As you probably know this is something that a few aiming systems promote. There is one best not mentioned and another one that I know of. The balls look funny if you don't do this. At least for some players.
boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
Tilt is bad, extremely slight rotation (think like a tank) helps avoid optical illusions IMO.
Have you considered how pros were taught as youngsters "shoot like a rifle and put your dominant eye over the cue", emerging as pros while others were misled by the "like a rifle" claim?
Many students have a vision center a short distance away from their dominant eye . . .
What makes you think that is their dominant eye? How do you know?
That's not a disability. Many people (usually thought of as weirdos) are like you.
Show me an example of somebody who plays with their cue under their non-dominant eye.
pj
chgo
I could do that but you really don't know which of those players is playing under their dominant eye or not, correct?
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Sorry. Some of us aren't lucky enough to be retired. Is the guy on the left left or right eye dominant? How about the guy on the right?
Hard to say for sure, but they look like the same guy. If so, which eye do you think is his dominant one? Both? Neither? And what do you think this shows?
pj
chgo
Well, that was my question to you. I asked you how you know that the dominant eye is above the cue in all those photos you posted. You still haven't answered.