nine ball changes have changed the game

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maha

from way back when
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the game is different to say the least.!!
nine ball was a simple game to play and understand, and used to determine the best player.

we now rack our own with a gimmick style rack that makes it easy to make certain balls on the break. no more random luck to it.

we have jump cues to defeat good safeties.

special cues or add-ons to them for special shots.

polished balls and fast cloth.

new cloth for tournaments which makes balls go in easily.

no more push-out which eliminates tough angle shots and hard banks.

so smaller pockets and deeper shelves come about to rectify it, which changed the game.
 
maha said:
the game is different to say the least.!!
nine ball was a simple game to play and understand, and used to determine the best player.

we now rack our own with a gimmick style rack that makes it easy to make certain balls on the break. no more random luck to it.

we have jump cues to defeat good safeties.

special cues or add-ons to them for special shots.

polished balls and fast cloth.

new cloth for tournaments which makes balls go in easily.

no more push-out which eliminates tough angle shots and hard banks.

so smaller pockets and deeper shelves come about to rectify it, which changed the game.
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I miss the old 9 ball Ring Games - scratch, in kitchen on snap, push out, and one on the spot. Other money balls (ex: 5) had to be racked behind the one to prevent them from falling on the snap.
Good times.
50 on the 5, 1c on the 9.
Either lost a grand or won 5. Lol.
We'd have as many as 8 players on certain nights. Big tables only. None of this bar box bangin' crap.
 
TrxR said:
The only special cue I've seen in 9 ball is the break and jump.

As for the jump cues defeating a good safety , to me that means the safety wasn't good enough.

There were players playing push out in the UK open.
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that's two special cues.

and a safety that was good but took a special cue and skill to defeat it

push out was on all shots if desired not just the break
 
maha said:
the game is different to say the least.!!
nine ball was a simple game to play and understand, and used to determine the best player.

we now rack our own with a gimmick style rack that makes it easy to make certain balls on the break. no more random luck to it.

we have jump cues to defeat good safeties.

special cues or add-ons to them for special shots.

polished balls and fast cloth.

new cloth for tournaments which makes balls go in easily.

no more push-out which eliminates tough angle shots and hard banks.

so smaller pockets and deeper shelves come about to rectify it, which changed the game.
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I disagree. Pool is not currently broken.


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It’s too controlled now.

Those plastic racks changed the game. I recently started playing again. From a hiatus to nonstop playing in tournaments.

The biggest change is the break. The difference between two good players are their breaks. It has been like this forever.

The plastic racks even the playing field and shortens up the game. Both players lose a turn because if something is made off a break you only have 6-7 balls to run out. One miss in a game could be your only shot.

This is the difference in the local level.

Other than rules, 9b and 10b are very different. You have to shoot that one extra ball.

9b went from 9b to quick 6 or 7 ball game.
 
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Mensabum said:
I miss the old 9 ball Ring Games - scratch, in kitchen on snap, push out, and one on the spot. Other money balls (ex: 5) had to be racked behind the one to prevent them from falling on the snap.
Good times.
50 on the 5, 1c on the 9.
Either lost a grand or won 5. Lol.
We'd have as many as 8 players on certain nights. Big tables only. None of this bar box bangin' crap.
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Me2!
 
Mensabum said:
I miss the old 9 ball Ring Games - scratch, in kitchen on snap, push out, and one on the spot. Other money balls (ex: 5) had to be racked behind the one to prevent them from falling on the snap.
Good times.
50 on the 5, 1c on the 9.
Either lost a grand or won 5. Lol.
We'd have as many as 8 players on certain nights. Big tables only. None of this bar box bangin' crap.
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Heck I bet people don’t know what ring games are. 😂

I miss screaming “option! option!” That game is a total shark game. I loved it.

1-2 for the good laughs.

3-5 for the money.

The poolhall owner use to hate when we would masse or jump but he had no problems with us throwing money on the table. players with fistful of cash and playing on the front table. 😂
 
TrxR said:
The only special cue I've seen in 9 ball is the break and jump.

As for the jump cues defeating a good safety , to me that means the safety wasn't good enough.

There were players playing push out in the UK open.
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Extension. No need for bridge.
 
What some call a "good safety", I call a lazy one. The moves game prior to jump cue was the equivalent of zone defense ...easy and lazy. Sure the art of kicking has diminished to some degree. However that's been replaced by greater skill in positioning the CB when playing defensively.

Polished balls, clean cloth, template racks are all advancement in the game. The romance some hold on to for the dingy rooms/balls with beer stained tables, and a cloud of smoke so heavy you have to duck under it to see your next shot is nice and all, but none of it has anything to do with the competitive version of the game.

I still have memories of playing in those conditions. Good riddance...
 
maha said:
that's two special cues.

and a safety that was good but took a special cue and skill to defeat it

push out was on all shots if desired not just the break
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A push out on all shots is the dumbest thing I ever heard for 9 ball.
Games evolve. Look how many clubs golfers have. You think it takes no practice to be as good with them as pros are? You think you pick one up and you’re making accurate jumps and playing safe off them? That takes a lot of work. The cue isn’t magic.
You sound like the old man yelling get off my lawn.
 
I learned about a ring game while on a work trip to Shreveport a few years ago. Spent a few nights at a place called Sidepockets and some of the guys there asked me to join in a 10 ball ring game. Only $2 for money balls, which were the 5 and the 10, and we had 6 or 7 guys playing. Don't really remember winning anything, but don't remember losing either, so probably within $10 either way. It was a fun game once I started playing, and I'm glad they got me into it.
 
The_JV said:
What some call a "good safety", I call a lazy one. The moves game prior to jump cue was the equivalent of zone defense ...easy and lazy. Sure the art of kicking has diminished to some degree. However that's been replaced by greater skill in positioning the CB when playing defensively.

Polished balls, clean cloth, template racks are all advancement in the game. The romance some hold on to for the dingy rooms/balls with beer stained tables, and a cloud of smoke so heavy you have to duck under it to see your next shot is nice and all, but none of it has anything to do with the competitive version of the game.

I still have memories of playing in those conditions. Good riddance...
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Only template racks changed the game.

Clean cloth and polished balls existed since I started playing pool decades and decades ago.

You've probably adapted to the racks. I stopped playing right when it was gaining its popularity years ago. I started playing fulltime again. It has changed how tournaments are ran and how games are played now.

I've been away and back so I didn't gradually adopted it. It was quite a culture shock. Everyone makes the break now and both players lose a turn if more than 2 or more balls are made.

Also, my intensity and concentration levels have risen. I'm on high alert because there are less balls. When it comes to my shot I better run out. Normally, I will be lazy the first few balls of a 9b game.
 
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Rickhem said:
I learned about a ring game while on a work trip to Shreveport a few years ago. Spent a few nights at a place called Sidepockets and some of the guys there asked me to join in a 10 ball ring game. Only $2 for money balls, which were the 5 and the 10, and we had 6 or 7 guys playing. Don't really remember winning anything, but don't remember losing either, so probably within $10 either way. It was a fun game once I started playing, and I'm glad they got me into it.
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You were considered lucky. LOL
 
trob, when you attack the poster you show you are basically dim witted, which from your posts i can derive that easily.

push out was used for decades and only changed at johnson city to speed up the games.

your opinion is the same as mine. worth what you paid to read it. except i dont attack the poster for a disagreement. that shows your mentality.
 
polished balls and great cloth are a thing now and we live with them and like them as drawing the cueball and easy stroking are a plus with them.

not the same but an improvement which changed 9 ball immensely. but that is a positive change. still a change. for some better, for some worse.
no where did i say pool was broken. as said earlier.
 
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