nine ball changes have changed the game

I miss the old 9 ball Ring Games - scratch, in kitchen on snap, push out, and one on the spot. Other money balls (ex: 5) had to be racked behind the one to prevent them from falling on the snap.
Good times.
50 on the 5, 1c on the 9.
Either lost a grand or won 5. Lol.
We'd have as many as 8 players on certain nights. Big tables only. None of this bar box bangin' crap.
The only ring game I’ve played uses 10 balls where the 5 ball and 10 ball are the money balls.
The 10 is more than tge cash amount of the 5 ball. Typical games are $1/$2, $2/$3/ $3/5, $5/$10,
etc. The more serious minded players wage more than I’d like to pass time playing pool. I am not
looking for the cash or need it and I hate losing it, whether it’s in poker or a Sunday NFL game, etc.

I’d do a race for x dollars and the most I ever paid to enter a 16 last man standing winner takes all
tournament was $100. I play pool for satisfaction more than cash since my skills are diminishing.
Any any jockey……you usually don’t win the most money betting on the oldest horse in the field.

Knowledge and strategy count the most when you can consistently execute instead of usually.

Some might attribute that to nerves but gotta say missing a easy shot with ball in hand isn’t a
case of nerves when you been already been pocketing pretty consistently more difficult shots.
Until you wear the footwear of your opponent & walk awhile, you won’t ever know how it feels.

Sometimes your body doesn’t do what It’s been doing quite well. Dunno why but stroke mistakes
are the most infuriating single annoying thing that is totally needless and unnecessary….Ugh.

The old adage that money won is sweeter than money earned is so especially true…..for the winner.
So is the expression it is better to be lucky than good…..for the winner. I don’t know about you but
when I play 9 ball, which is infrequent for this very reason, I hate losing to my opponent slopping the
9 ball in a pocket accidentally, or the wrong pocket, and winning the game. Or if he had no open pocket
for his shot so he pounds the OB into the 9 ball that bounces around & falls in a pocket he never aimed
at…..for a win. I prefer to think as pool as a game of skill instead of unintended, accidental good fortune.

The ring games I’ve played in have always been 5 &10 balls bounties. Pocket them early and get paid
even though the balls are spotted. I think a great way to pass time is 3 ball and with 4-6 players, it can
build some enormous pots. Even at $.50 or a $1.00 per player, it adds up fast because of all the pushes
because one ties then we all tie. I played in one game where it pushed 12 times and no one ever made
more than 1 ball on the break during the run of ties. There were 5 players and it was on a 9 pool table at
Blue Fin Billiards that started with 6 players but after 7 games, a player left and no one else wanted to
buy in. Heck, at that point it was more fun watching than waiting for your turn to try. 3 ball can be played
for $.25 or $.50 or $1 or $2, whatever is easy, fun & inexpensive since it hardly rates as a 3 ball tournament.

It’s sore of being akin to pitching coins as a kid growing up. Sometimes it was pennies, nickels or dimes but
when it became pitching quarters, that’s when a deck of cards usually came out for 5, 10 & 25 cents poker.

In the late 50’s and early 60’s, winning $ 20-30 bucks playing poker at 14 yrs old with a bunch of your friends
on a summer night listening to rock n’ roll songs on a portable radio under a street light or the fluorescent glow
of a brownstone apartment vestibule was nothing to be taken lightly. It bought pizza, ice cream, smokes, the
movies or a Dodgers, Giants or Yankees baseball game, a day at Steeplechase, a Nathan’s grill bonanza that
was only a short subway ride away…and when I was old enough to go to the pool hall alone without a parent
or guardian, I put away my youthful things & pastimes, except for playing baseball and the HS rifle & archery
teams. Pool became my preoccupation. It’s been that way for the last 64 years even before The Hustler movie.
 
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the game is different to say the least.!!
nine ball was a simple game to play and understand, and used to determine the best player.

we now rack our own with a gimmick style rack that makes it easy to make certain balls on the break. no more random luck to it.

we have jump cues to defeat good safeties.

special cues or add-ons to them for special shots.

polished balls and fast cloth.

new cloth for tournaments which makes balls go in easily.

no more push-out which eliminates tough angle shots and hard banks.

so smaller pockets and deeper shelves come about to rectify it, which changed the game.
The template rack is Ok, in my book... Jump Cues should be outlawed, for reasons stated.... The Push out was/is a strategy shot & should be allowed.... Cobbing up a table, to make it harder to play on, does do that. But, if everyone plays better, does that hurt anything, If everyone misses a few, it boils down to someone has to win...
 
Problem number 1...you are using APA as your benchmark. Tight pockets are fine if they are within the tolerances of well setup flat tables. If the balls roll poorly they can be insufferable.
My point in using the apa as an example is their skill level 3 is by far the majority skill level among the billiard industry. Same goes for any other league tap, apa etc.
 
My point in using the apa as an example is their skill level 3 is by far the majority skill level among the billiard industry. Same goes for any other league tap, apa etc.

I’m in an APA division that has a few teams (including us) use Diamond 4.5” bar boxes on our home tables, with the remaining teams using Valley bar boxes with the large buckets (5"+) for pockets.

All 3 places in our division that use Valleys also have slow cloth on them, while all the Diamonds use Simonis.

IMO a Diamond with Simonis play about the same for as a Valley that has slower cloth in reasonable condition, and no hidden dead rails, for the newcomer/APA-3 types.

Primary reason being that the slower cloth really prevents getting a decent spread at all on the break unless you REALLY have some power on it. Inning counts for our SL-3s aren't different between the two. For better players, the area Valleys end up playing tougher. For each pocket rattle you get on a Diamond theres either an extra cluster to deal with on the Valley - and on like with Simonis, you have to bust that cluster apart with a crow bar, it's not enough just to tap it unless you want the cue ball joining the party.
 
in every sport the home court changes the strategy and skill levels to play on it.

pros can have much tougher equipment as seen in most sports. they can adapt and its within their abilities.

the average players cannot play and enjoy pro level toughness. and it isnt right as it discourages newcomers.
 
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