Stats -- 2024 Buffalo's Pro Classic One-Pocket, May 2024

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Here are some statistics from the 2024 Buffalo's Pro Classic One-Pocket event, played May 22-26 at Buffalo's Billiards in Jefferson, LA with pay-per-view streaming by PoolActionTV. The commentators for the matches I watched were Scott Rabon, Jeremy Jones, Larry Schwartz, Bill Incardona, Scott Frost, and Ray Hansen.

This was a 32-player, double-elimination event, with all races to 5. The finalists are Skyler Woodward and Roberto Gomez, who are playing the second set of a true double-elimination final match as I write this post.

[EDIT -- I see that Gomez won the second set 5-0!]

Conditions -- The conditions for these streamed matches included:
- Diamond 9-foot table with 4" (per Ray Hansen) corner pockets and blue Simonis cloth;​
- Aramith Tournament balls with a Pro Cup measles cue ball;​
- triangle rack;​
- rack your own with alternating breaks;​
- re-break if a ball is made on the break for either player (did not occur);​
- no shot clock;​
- climbing up on the table (no feet on the floor) to shoot is permitted; and​
- lag for opening break.​

With one exception, the stats are for all of the matches that were streamed in full on the main table with commentary. The exception is that I am not watching the second set of the finals, because of its possible length and the fact that I have obligations later today and need some sleep after watching the hotseat match through most of the night last night. So I watched 10 matches, which constituted 16% of the total of 63 matches (counting the 2nd set of the finals as a match) played in the event. The streamed matches are listed here in the order in which they were played.

Wed. May 22
1. Roberto Gomez defeated Evan Lunda 5-4​

Thurs. May 23
2. Evan Lunda d. Efren Reyes 5-1​
3. Alex Calderon d. Tony Chohan 5-1​

Fri. May 24
4. Fedor Gorst d. Skyler Woodward 5-4​
5. Gomez d. Roland Garcia 5-0​

Sat. May 25
6. Woodward d. Corey Deuel 5-2​
7. Jeremy Seaman d. Francisco Bustamante 5-4​
8. Gomez d. Gorst 5-2 (Hotseat match)​

Sun. May 26
9. Woodward d. Gorst 5-4 (Semifinal)​
10. Woodward d. Gomez 5-4 (Final, Set 1)​

Breaks from breaker's right side of table -- 28 of 76 (37%)

Games won by breaker
When breaking from his left side of table -- 34 of 48 (71%)​
When breaking from his right side of table -- 13 of 28 (46%)​
Total -- 47 of 76 (62%)​

Games won by player who scored the first point (or had it scored for him) -- 47 of 76 (62%)

Matches won by winner of lag -- 6 of 10 (60%)

Scratches on the break -- Three -- 1 by Gomez (he lost the game), 1 by Reyes (lost game), and 1 by Woodward (won game).

Balls made on the break -- None

Three consecutive fouls -- None

Distribution of game scores:
8-(-2) -- 1​
8-(-1) -- 2​
8-0 -- 20​
8-1 -- 9​
8-2 -- 4​
8-3 -- 10​
8-4 -- 9​
8-5 -- 8​
8-6 -- 9​
8-7 -- 4​
Total -- 76​
Average game score -- 8 - 2.6​

Distribution of lengths of games.
Under 10 minutes -- 6 games (8% of the 76 games)​
10 - 19 min. -- 23​
20 - 29 min. -- 15​
30 - 59 min. -- 21​
60+ min. -- 11 (14% of the 76 games. Longest 93 min., the last game of these 10 matches.)​
Total -- 76​

Match lengths
Longest in total length (6 hrs., 33 min.) and highest in average minutes per game (56) -- Gomez d. Gorst 5-2.​
Shortest in total length (1 hr., 34 min.) and lowest in average minutes per game (16 min.) -- Lunda d. Reyes 5-1.​
Average match length -- 4 hrs., 14 min.​
Average minutes per game -- 33½ min.​

Average match score -- 5 - 2.6. One of the matches was a shutout. Four matches went to hill/hill.

Ball counts by length of run:
The total ball counts resulted from the following runs and fouls.​
1 ball -- 184 times​
2 balls -- 68​
3 balls -- 36​
4 balls -- 23​
5 balls -- 20​
6 balls -- 12​
7 balls -- 6​
8 balls -- 8​
9 balls -- 5​
Plus balls pocketed by opponents -- 85​
Minus fouls -- 119​
TOTAL ball count -- 809​
Average game score -- 8 - 2.6​

Distribution of run-outs to win the games:
1 ball -- 26 (34% of 76 games)​
2 balls -- 12​
3 balls -- 7​
4 balls -- 7​
5 balls -- 4​
6 balls -- 7​
7 balls -- 3​
8 or 9 balls -- 10 (13%)​
Average (mean) "out" run -- 3.5 balls​
Average (median) "out" run -- 2.5 balls​

High run-outs
9-and-outs -- 4 times: 2 times by Woodward (Matches 6 and 9) and 1 each by Lunda (Match 1) and Gorst (Match 4).​
 
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It is borderline cruel and unusual punishment for one person to watch that much one pocket in a week- kudos to you again for great stat collection and analysis

1p has more variation than any other game, and cue sport for that matter.. now old school hour long wedge racks of 1p, that i could agree on is punishment haha. but even the longest match i watched in this event was thrilling imo
 
Thanks for all this. The breaking stats are interesting - if I understand correctly, all games you watched were on the same table. It appears the right-side pocket (when looking down the table from the breaking end) was the "good" pocket. Did you notice anything in the way the table played to explain this? And/or do you think the table broke better to the right for some reason? (I think all these guys play right handed?)

Breaks from breaker's right side of table -- 28 of 76 (37%)

Games won by breaker
When breaking from his left side of table -- 34 of 48 (71%)
When breaking from his right side of table -- 13 of 28 (46%)
Total -- 47 of 76 (62%)
 
Thanks for all this. The breaking stats are interesting - if I understand correctly, all games you watched were on the same table. It appears the right-side pocket (when looking down the table from the breaking end) was the "good" pocket. Did you notice anything in the way the table played to explain this? And/or do you think the table broke better to the right for some reason? (I think all these guys play right handed?) ...
Yes, all the matches I watched were on the same table, and all 11 of the players who appeared in those matches are right handed.

I thought I did see some drift away from both pockets at times, with the drift (away from the long rail) more often on the left pocket (looking from the head toward the foot). Old-time conventional wisdom, to many players, is that lefties should break from their right, thereby choosing the left pocket, and righties from their left. But many factors can affect a player's choice of breaking side. I don't recall whether the breaks in these matches tended to be "better" from one side than from the other.
 
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Yes, I've always wondered about that conventional wisdom, never saw a real advantage. I guess it shouldn't be surprising that these guys would actually pay attention to what's going on and chose the side accordingly. The presumption being that the frequency of breaks from the right side decreased as the tournament (or each match) progressed. (Please don't take that as a request to go back and find out! :-) )
 
1p has more variation than any other game, and cue sport for that matter.. now old school hour long wedge racks of 1p, that i could agree on is punishment haha. but even the longest match i watched in this event was thrilling imo
I agree- it is definitely more interesting than it was in the past. I was mostly joking- I can enjoy a one pocket match here and there, but I would still prefer to watch other games.
 
Here are some statistics from the 2024 Buffalo's Pro Classic One-Pocket event, played May 22-26 at Buffalo's Billiards in Jefferson, LA with pay-per-view streaming by PoolActionTV. The commentators for the matches I watched were Scott Rabon, Jeremy Jones, Larry Schwartz, Bill Incardona, Scott Frost, and Ray Hansen.

This was a 32-player, double-elimination event, with all races to 5. The finalists are Skyler Woodward and Roberto Gomez, who are playing the second set of a true double-elimination final match as I write this post.

[EDIT -- I see that Gomez won the second set 5-0!]

Conditions -- The conditions for these streamed matches included:
- Diamond 9-foot table with 4" (per Ray Hansen) corner pockets and blue Simonis cloth;​
- Aramith Tournament balls with a Pro Cup measles cue ball;​
- triangle rack;​
- rack your own with alternating breaks;​
- re-break if a ball is made on the break for either player (did not occur);​
- no shot clock;​
- climbing up on the table (no feet on the floor) to shoot is permitted; and​
- lag for opening break.​

I'll have to check if I remember next time I'm at Buffalo's - if the TV table is 4" pockets, it's tighter than the other 9-footers being used in the tournament (I think the others are 4.25"?). This means Gomez got a few matches in on the TV table before Skylar got a chance to.
 
With one exception, the stats are for all of the matches that were streamed in full on the main table with commentary. The exception is that I am not watching the second set of the finals, because of its possible length and the fact that I have
Obviously the players agreed to chop on the last set, so including that last set in any figures would be pointless.
 
Yes, all the matches I watched were on the same table, and all 11 of the players who appeared in those matches are right handed.

I thought I did see some drift away from both pockets at times, with the drift (away from the long rail) more often on the left pocket (looking from the head toward the foot). Old-time conventional wisdom, to many players, is that lefties should break from their right, thereby choosing the left pocket, and righties from their left. But many factors can affect a player's choice of breaking side. I don't recall whether the breaks in these matches tended to be "better" from one side than from the other.

On the arena table I noted, on my side (the left pocket), what appeared to be *numerous* bolts along the vertical sides of the frame.

I kept meaning to walk around and take photos but didn't. So all I can conclude is that it is possible (probable) that that table has been seriously altered - - possibly to level out the slate. I only took one photo from my seat but if you blow it up you'll see what appear to be bolt heads along the sides of the frame, like maybe 8-10, depending on how you count them.

Here's an original photo and a filtered shot to show the bolts a bit better.

Lou Figueroa,
 

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I'll have to check if I remember next time I'm at Buffalo's - if the TV table is 4" pockets, it's tighter than the other 9-footers being used in the tournament (I think the others are 4.25"?). This means Gomez got a few matches in on the TV table before Skylar got a chance to.
I've seen this table re-covered a few times. It"s stamped 4 1/8. The others are 4.25
 
On the arena table I noted, on my side (the left pocket), what appeared to be *numerous* bolts along the vertical sides of the frame.
It looked to me that the skirt on that side's long rail was actually 2 skirts from another table's short rails. Hence the diamond logo on half of the long rail skirt. I can't see how that would have anything to do with the leveling of the slate though.
 
It looked to me that the skirt on that side's long rail was actually 2 skirts from another table's short rails. Hence the diamond logo on half of the long rail skirt. I can't see how that would have anything to do with the leveling of the slate though.

I don't know, I was just spit balling.

If those bolts are connected to rods they could, conceivably, go through the frame and under the slate to push it up a bit but like I said, just spit balling.

Lou Figueroa
 
When you remove the top and flip it over, the underside of the rail has a black stamp 4 1/8 in the corner. What do you think that means?

What I was asking was: what do you think it means that there are different stamps? Certainly not different sized pockets, so what then?

Lou Figueroa
 
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