2024 World Pool Championship

something_pool said:
Why would tight pockets randomize the results? Tight pockets are harder to make balls into. Something being more difficult isn't the same thing as it being more random - it's actually less random because you need to be more accurate to pocket on tighter pockets.
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Extrapolate it in either direction, then. If he wins the lag and his break is working, Joshua Filler would be much more likely to run out a set on someone on 5" pockets than on 3.9". Or at least to give them only a few chances at the table for the entire set because he's going to run out like water. Tighten up the pockets significantly and he misses more balls, runs fewer racks, and puts together maybe just 1 or even zero packages during the entire set.

Sure, the pockets are equally difficult for his opponent, but Joshua's chances of losing increase the more times his opponent gets to the table. And his opponent gets to the table more on super tight pockets.

Again, I don't know if this actually bears out on paper. We are probably just seeing normal variance here. But a lot of big names have either already dropped or have had to claw out victories, much like what we just saw in the UK Open where none of the final four were over 800 Fargo.
 
Scrunge19 said:
Any chance we can get a few of these unknown world beaters to pop up in the US?
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to put it bluntly, the more third worldy the country an event is held in, the more representation you will see.. vietnam probably cares less about iraqis, pinoys and syrians travelling to play in an obscure sport than US or UK does. soufi is trying to become a german citizen for this reason

it's not an easy problem to solve
 
BlueRaider said:
Extrapolate it in either direction, then. If he wins the lag and his break is working, Joshua Filler would be much more likely to run out a set on someone on 5" pockets than on 3.9". Or at least to give them only a few chances at the table for the entire set because he's going to run out like water. Tighten up the pockets significantly and he misses more balls, runs fewer racks, and puts together maybe just 1 or even zero packages during the entire set.

Sure, the pockets are equally difficult for his opponent, but Joshua's chances of losing increase the more times his opponent gets to the table. And his opponent gets to the table more on super tight pockets.

Again, I don't know if this actually bears out on paper. We are probably just seeing normal variance here. But a lot of big names have either already dropped or have had to claw out victories, much like what we just saw in the UK Open where none of the final four were over 800 Fargo.
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This makes no sense. Yes, if you make the conditions harder, then world class players like Joshua Filler have a lower chance of running out the set or running packages. But you don't need to run packages to win - you need to win more games than your opponent. If the conditions are harder, then both filler and his opponent will make more mistakes. But the stronger player will make less mistakes than the weaker one. There's no argument that more difficult conditions favor the weaker player - it just doesn't make any sense.
 
BlueRaider said:
Again, I don't know if this actually bears out on paper. We are probably just seeing normal variance here. But a lot of big names have either already dropped or have had to claw out victories, much like what we just saw in the UK Open where none of the final four were over 800 Fargo.
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these are the exact same table and specs as hanoi and the same specs as US open. in fact these tables probably play easier because of dryness. we are seeing pressure take its toll, more on some than on others, and it's only going to get tougher
 
Kris_b1104 said:
Omg I forgot how slow Kazakis plays. Shane up 7-4 though.
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My grandmother is dead and an APA 2.

Even she could have ran this rack and cooked me dinner in the time it took Alex to shoot the two ball.


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skogstokig said:
these are the exact same table and specs as hanoi and the same specs as US open. in fact these tables probably play easier because of dryness. we are seeing pressure take its toll, more on some than on others, and it's only going to get tougher
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Without question... Think of the expectations the favourites are placing on themselves with such a massive potential payday
 
decent dennis said:
They should either have a shot clock on all tables or none. You can’t look at a ball that’s not moving by the way for 3 minutes then ask for the ball to be cleaned.
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Surprised they haven't moved to shot clocks on all streamed tables. I know that they use only 1 ref for several perimeter table groups, so shot clocking them would be more difficult. However I doubt the viewing masses would care about what they can't watch anyway.
 
BeiberLvr said:
My grandmother is dead and an APA 2.

Even she could have ran this rack and cooked me dinner in the time it took Alex to shoot the two ball.


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That's a touchy shot, one anyone should take a bit of extra time for, both in terms of plan and execution. I agree that routinely spending 20-30 seconds per shot for hangers or semi-hangers when theres 1-5 balls left and no problems is overkill (I don't know how long Kazakis spends on those on average, just painting a picture of the extreme where we can probably all agree on this topic), but in the sort of situation shown in your image, one is a fool if they take it for granted and play it without thinking.
 
skogstokig said:
these are the exact same table and specs as hanoi and the same specs as US open. in fact these tables probably play easier because of dryness. we are seeing pressure take its toll, more on some than on others, and it's only going to get tougher
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Jeddah is on the Red Sea, I'm hearing from the commentators that it is quite humid.
 
Oikawa said:
That's a touchy shot, one anyone should take a bit of extra time for, both in terms of plan and execution. I agree that routinely spending 20-30 seconds per shot for hangers or semi-hangers when theres 1-5 balls left and no problems is overkill (I don't know how long Kazakis spends on those on average, just painting a picture of the extreme where we can probably all agree on this topic), but in the sort of situation shown in your image, one is a fool if they take it for granted and play it without thinking.
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One extension per rack should be allowed, but no more. The most aggravating thing about these slow players is that when they're forced to play with a shot clock, their game doesn't suffer a bit. Kaci is a perfect example of this, and Kazakis as well.
 
Why are all of the players asking for the cue ball to be cleaned?

Matchroom need to ban this.
 
Very few packages in this event with winner break format.

Seems like matchroom has found a happy medium to make 9 ball challenging for the world's top players.
 
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