Who were the best big cue ball players you ever saw.
Well the magnet responsive balls came in 2 variations that I have experienced. One had a metal skeleton and was always off balance and could produce funny curls at the end of the roll. The other we called the mud ball. The resin was impregnated with metal. Making it darker and heavier but balanced. The mud ball was good for the break and forced follow.I’ve only had two money sessions with the big ball, but I played pretty good….I refused to play with a magnetic ball.….
…..the big ball is predictable, the magnetic ball is not.
Of course it is. Quit fkng whining.Dave Matlock, Gary “Bushwhacker” Nolan, Little Gary Flannery, Buddy Hall. I always found this a circus side show though, as while it’s an unpopular opinion with most, Bar Box isn’t pool IMO.
Once again, the loudest mouth in the roomOf course it is. Quit fkng whining.
Keith, Little Al, Chavez, a guy they called James Brown could handle that thing well too. Seemed like anybody who played well at the time was comfortable with the big ball too.
David Matlock was an absolute wizard with the big rock. In his prime i think he was the favorite playing anyone with that cueball. Another was John Shuput and surfer rod. Both loved that big ball.
you brought it on pal. once again. as long as people like you keep saying barbox pool is not pool i'm calling you out. different game?? of course, no one's arguing that but to say its not pool is idiotic.Once again, the loudest mouth in the room![]()
Joe was a monster. I've talked to him quite a bit at tournaments where he was selling cues. I still think 'in prime' Matlock had the highest gear. His break, monster stroke and 3c knowledge made him almost unbeatable. Even at 70 he's still running 10+game packages on people at Shooters in Olathe where he works.There was time when nobody beat Joe Salazar.., he doesn't play anymore but if you catch him a Cue show or one of the big tournaments stop by his both, not only some of the best cues for sale, but some cool Pool stories too!
I have an Aramith magnetic ball. It's slightly heavier than the measles ball but I can't tell the difference in performance. I can't remember the weight, maybe 6.2 to 5.9. The surface finish is much less durable, though.Well the magnet responsive balls came in 2 variations that I have experienced. One had a metal skeleton and was always off balance and could produce funny curls at the end of the roll. The other we called the mud ball. The resin was impregnated with metal. Making it darker and heavier but balanced. The mud ball was good for the break and forced follow.![]()
I agree. Always is. Diminishing return.Once again, the loudest mouth in the room![]()
Feel free to put me on Ignore Mr.Gadget. I'll take it as a compliment believe me.I agree. Always is. Diminishing return.
He is rightyou brought it on pal. once again. as long as people like you keep saying barbox pool is not pool i'm calling you out. different game?? of course, no one's arguing that but to say its not pool is idiotic.
killer post right there.With two magnetic balls already described I will say there were at least three. I saw one break that had what looked like a section of pipe or a pipe collar in it. This metal was huge, came almost to the surface on the ends. No surprise it eventually broke.
Now on to the subject of the thread, Scotty Townsend was the best with the mudball that I saw up close and personal. Mike Massey of artistic pool fame was no slouch with the mud ball back in the day. Not to be bashful, I liked the mud ball and shot just fine with it. It is easier to predict where an eight hundred pound gorilla is going to go than a cue ball the same size/weight or what I really hated, an undersized cue ball.
I think I saw Dave Matlock playing across the room which would make him the best I ever saw. I think his record stringing break and runs is twenty-six or twenty-eight games. Try to fade that!
Keith has mentioned a fondness for the mud ball if I am not mistaken. A lot of people back in the day were. Reminds me, I played Danny Medina and Johnny Archer with the mud ball so they certainly belong on any "best I ever saw" list.
Anybody who insists a barbox isn't a pool table, when is the last time you saw somebody run out a tournament on one? If the table seems like a toy, bet more. When hundreds and thousands start getting slapped down on the rail the pockets get a lot tighter!
The big or heavy cue balls were probably behind the "draw for show, follow for dough" saying from way back when. Hard to draw much so the barbox specialists usually built their game around follow I believe. Certainly true of players in my neck of the woods. I also have to say that the Diamond seven footers play so much better than Valleys and similar tables that I don't put them in the same category unless the Diamond has had cushions swapped and been rebuilt by someone that knew their business.
Getting old, left out my old sometimes road partner, Bobby Slaven. When he was in the mood he could tear up a barbox with the mudball! To include the ladies, Bobby's sister Betty was good enough to win medium sized tournaments in Houston, Becky whose last name I don't recall, won her share and then some around Baton Rouge. I cut my teeth playing a few tough ladies and later played Tammy Wesley(Jones). These ladies all handled the mud ball well. They were deadly to the egos of men who thought ladies couldn't play!
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