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don't have to like it just don't say its not pool. smaller arena does change the game but its still pool. if it wasn't for barboxes pool would have died in this country years ago. i live in the midwest and i'd say at least 80%,maybe more, pool is played on 7fts. only big table game is one pocket, nobody plays 8b/9b/10b on big tables. btw, just checked on the Shooters/Olathe bb event: 260 players. NO Fargo. try that with any bigtable event. pretty good for 'non pool'.
 
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Sometimes dying is not the worst that can happen. Consider the old saw "a fate worse than death". Ever had a friend or loved one so bad off that you earnestly prayed they would die? Tonight. Now. Perhaps the better view of death is not that it is the end of something but rather a door which facilitates transition.

So where was I? Right. It is not pool that has died but its once associated environment -- the classic American pool hall. Those of us around to see the cow's tail clear the fence know what we've lost and why we mourn its passing. Remember though, most of us never saw pool's hey day. We just saw the dancing wisps trailing down the tracks after the express flew through town. I cannot imagine what it was like to actually ride that high balling train.

Nor is not fair to blame this loss on a single factor like bar boxes or for that matter, blame it on anything at all -- it is the nature of the beast. Nothing is forever. We live in a fluid world of constant change.

While I really don't love bar box pool, a bunch of folks do. Who am I to dictate anything? And, truth be told, I did play on bar boxes and passed many good nights doing so -- made the shot of my life on one -- so how bad can I really hate them.

The real point of all this is to observe that it is important to enjoy what is happening, here, now. Make the best of the hand you are holding.
 
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Sometimes dying is not the worst that can happen. Consider the old saw "a fate worse than death". Ever had a friend or loved one so bad off that you earnestly prayed they would die? Tonight. Now. Perhaps the better view of death is not that it is the end of something but rather a door which facilitates transition.

So where was I? Right. It is not pool that has died but its once associated environment -- the classic American pool hall. Those of us around to see the cow's tail clear the fence know what we've lost and why we mourn its passing. Remember though, most of us never saw pool's hey day. We just saw the dancing wisps trailing down the tracks after the express flew through town. I cannot imagine what it was like to actually ride that high balling train.

Nor is not fair to blame this loss on a single factor like bar boxes or for that matter, blame it on anything at all -- it is the nature of the beast. Nothing is forever. We live in a fluid world of constant change.

While I really don't love bar box pool, a bunch of folks do. Who am I to dictate anything? And, truth be told, I did play on bar boxes and passed many good nights doing so -- made the shot of my life on one -- so how bad can I really hate them.

The real point of all this is observe that it is important to enjoy what is happening, here, now. Make the best of the hand you are holding.
good stuff. i agree that a lot of factors killed-off traditional poolhalls and most were cultural related. Yes, the arrival of small tables in bars/taverns played some part but not near as much as changes in society combined with massive rent/insurance prices.
 
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don't have to like it just don't say its not pool. smaller arena does change the game but its still pool. if it wasn't for barboxes pool would have died in this country years ago. i live in the midwest and i'd say at least 80%,maybe more, pool is played on 7fts. only big table game is one pocket, nobody plays 8b/9b/10b on big tables. btw, just checked on the Shooters/Olathe bb event: 260 players. NO Fargo. try that with any bigtable event. pretty good for 'non pool'.
It's a Fisher Price table with no hard shots. They don't play straight pool or one pocket on them. Pretty much minigolf compared to big golf.

I could care less about it adding 400,000 league players. Because that isn't pool either.
 
Sometimes dying is not the worst that can happen. Consider the old saw "a fate worse than death". Ever had a friend or loved one so bad off that you earnestly prayed they would die? Tonight. Now. Perhaps the better view of death is not that it is the end of something but rather a door which facilitates transition.

So where was I? Right. It is not pool that has died but its once associated environment -- the classic American pool hall. Those of us around to see the cow's tail clear the fence know what we've lost and why we mourn its passing. Remember though, most of us never saw pool's hey day. We just saw the dancing wisps trailing down the tracks after the express flew through town. I cannot imagine what it was like to actually ride that high balling train.

Nor is not fair to blame this loss on a single factor like bar boxes or for that matter, blame it on anything at all -- it is the nature of the beast. Nothing is forever. We live in a fluid world of constant change.

While I really don't love bar box pool, a bunch of folks do. Who am I to dictate anything? And, truth be told, I did play on bar boxes and passed many good nights doing so -- made the shot of my life on one -- so how bad can I really hate them.

The real point of all this is to observe that it is important to enjoy what is happening, here, now. Make the best of the hand you are holding.

A great post, along with those by several more of the "old guys" on here. As far as I am concerned real pool was played on ten foot tables. I would drive across a medium sized city passing dozens of nine foot tables to play on tens. It makes no more sense to mourn the loss of the tens than to mourn the other things of my youth.

All of us today with maybe the exception of a few over ninety missed the great days of pool. Every time one of the old men died I mourn their passing even if we weren't friends. They are the last few links to an era I never knew. Today's players don't even know what it was like in my youth. I wonder how many are left that got in a vehicle and headed out not knowing how long they will be gone or what the road will bring.

My "good old days" were when I was in my teens and twenties. People that remembered thirty or forty years before that thought those times were horrible.

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My Daddy used to take me to play on a 10 footer and tortured me every moment of it. There was a great contrast in our games. For me, pool might be serious but I always thought of it as being "fun" also. For my Dad, every shot was life and death -- one could watch his entire demeanor morph as he approached and got down on a shot. With everything else recreational that we shared, my Dad was a very easy going Frenchman.
 
don't have to like it just don't say its not pool. smaller arena does change the game but its still pool. if it wasn't for barboxes pool would have died in this country years ago. i live in the midwest and i'd say at least 80%,maybe more, pool is played on 7fts. only big table game is one pocket, nobody plays 8b/9b/10b on big tables. btw, just checked on the Shooters/Olathe bb event: 260 players. NO Fargo. try that with any bigtable event. pretty good for 'non pool'.
Where does English pool on a 6' take fit in? I don't think a lot of us will be showing Chris Melling much on the table. I don't think 7' tables are bad. I prefer the 9' tables, but as long as the equipment is maintained it's still a great game. If we are going to point to equipment as what's dragging the game down, the problem is poorly maintained table to close to walls, etc. Table size isn't the issue.
 
Where does English pool on a 6' take fit in? I don't think a lot of us will be showing Chris Melling much on the table. I don't think 7' tables are bad. I prefer the 9' tables, but as long as the equipment is maintained it's still a great game. If we are going to point to equipment as what's dragging the game down, the problem is poorly maintained table to close to walls, etc. Table size isn't the issue.
Agree here. look i like a good 9ft GC myself but i'd never say bb's are not pool. in my part of the country bb's rule the roost except for 1p or golf on the snooker table.
 
Where does English pool on a 6' take fit in? I don't think a lot of us will be showing Chris Melling much on the table. I don't think 7' tables are bad. I prefer the 9' tables, but as long as the equipment is maintained it's still a great game. If we are going to point to equipment as what's dragging the game down, the problem is poorly maintained table to close to walls, etc. Table size isn't the issue.

aren't their barboxes 7' as well? i know 6's exist but i mean in competitive e8b. either way that tiny cb is just as stupid as the big one
 
One sad tale of woe I remember from a while back was from a player who had all the bar box places near him close down. He was now faced with an hour drive one way to play. Made me feel small. Here I was at the tail end being all weepy over pool halls, while he, at the very beginning, had been cut off at the knees.

No, friends, pool is not dead, but in some places it is . . . I just hope my grandkids do not end up arguing with Garzar's over whether or not bumper pool is "real pool" while bemoaning the death of bar boxes -- truly as sad an idea as has ever occurred to me.
 
One sad tale of woe I remember from a while back was from a player who had all the bar box places near him close down. He was now faced with an hour drive one way to play. Made me feel small. Here I was at the tail end being all weepy over pool halls, while he, at the very beginning, had been cut off at the knees.

No, friends, pool is not dead, but in some places it is . . . I just hope my grandkids do not end up arguing with Garzar's over whether or not bumper pool is "real pool" while bemoaning the death of bar boxes -- truly as sad an idea as has ever occurred to me.
WTF? Bumper pool now??? Now that is not pool for sure. gimmick game for little kids. Try to kids to get off their fkng fones to do anything. just getting them to try pool is almost impossible. Pro pool is doing better and i guess leagues are ok so pool is isn't totally dead yet. Semi life-support status.
 
It's a Fisher Price table with no hard shots. They don't play straight pool or one pocket on them. Pretty much minigolf compared to big golf.

I could care less about it adding 400,000 league players. Because that isn't pool either.
Straight pool?? That shit's deader than HulaHoop. And i thought i was gettin old.
 
Can you run 168?
If not...zip it junior
FO pal. You must be real fun to live with. I wouldn't get out of the fkng electric chair to play 14.1 Probably get more entries in a grass watching tournament. How many sp events are there these days? One. One tournament a year. Some popular game.
 
Straight pool is THE game. It's not the greatest game for spectating but it's a very challenging game to play.
I agree but its all but dead. No younger players play it, hell most have never heard of it or know two rules. There's not even a WorldChampionship which i find nuts. The American14.1 event is the only sp tourn. in the world that draws decent/good players.
 
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