Gold Crown 1.5 for a happy birthday (I hope)

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This is to thank all the folks who posted info on identifying GC1 vs GC2 vs frankenstein tables. I digested every word. Repeatedly. Now I am checking my analysis for this newly acquired table: The feet and ball storage metal being silvered color vs bronze and absence of decal on the stretcher rules out a GC2. The larger scoring indicates GC1. The metal badging plate and adjustable feet means a later GC1. Have I got all that right?

Background: We relocated to NC by way of FL and left behind in Wisconsin a GC III and a 1920s 10ft Brunswick billiard table. Husband has missed them. Our current cabin in NC mountains has no room for a table, but the overstuffed outbuilding had promise after cleanout. I searched for a GC with no luck. Then amazingly my neighbor was buying live edge slabs from a guy who asked him if he knew anybody who wanted a pool table. He said no but his wife interrupted and said yes as she knew I was looking. They phoned me but had no info about the table - nada, not even the maker - just that seller said it was a great table "worth thousands" and he would let it go for $500. I asked for pictures and about had a heart attack. A GC1 right here in town!

Turns out the table was known to our western NC mechanic who vouched for it. The move, install, cleanup and refelt went perfectly. (Shout out to Danny at WNC Billiards)

Condition is not perfect, but it is pretty darn nice. And more important it plays beautifully. And even if I now learn about flaws or issues, I think I am still good with the table.

So, best birthday present ever?
 

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Garczar, pockets look to be original 4.5.

Which is OK. No thoughts about serious competition venues. That ship has sailed. This is for fun and challenge.
 

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celt said:
Garczar, pockets look to be original 4.5.

Which is OK. No thoughts about serious competition venues. That ship has sailed. This is for fun and challenge.
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bigger than 4.5 original was 5" which is what that looks like which is fine. i grew up on tables just like these. these were in poolrooms/rec centers and the idea was to have fun and have the customers come back.
 
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celt said:
This is to thank all the folks who posted info on identifying GC1 vs GC2 vs frankenstein tables. I digested every word. Repeatedly. Now I am checking my analysis for this newly acquired table: The feet and ball storage metal being silvered color vs bronze and absence of decal on the stretcher rules out a GC2. The larger scoring indicates GC1. The metal badging plate and adjustable feet means a later GC1. Have I got all that right?

Background: We relocated to NC by way of FL and left behind in Wisconsin a GC III and a 1920s 10ft Brunswick billiard table. Husband has missed them. Our current cabin in NC mountains has no room for a table, but the overstuffed outbuilding had promise after cleanout. I searched for a GC with no luck. Then amazingly my neighbor was buying live edge slabs from a guy who asked him if he knew anybody who wanted a pool table. He said no but his wife interrupted and said yes as she knew I was looking. They phoned me but had no info about the table - nada, not even the maker - just that seller said it was a great table "worth thousands" and he would let it go for $500. I asked for pictures and about had a heart attack. A GC1 right here in town!

Turns out the table was known to our western NC mechanic who vouched for it. The move, install, cleanup and refelt went perfectly. (Shout out to Danny at WNC Billiards)

Condition is not perfect, but it is pretty darn nice. And more important it plays beautifully. And even if I now learn about flaws or issues, I think I am still good with the table.

So, best birthday present ever?
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Nice find. GCII's were only available with Rosewood stained aprons and pedestal and as you pointed out, bronze feet and ball tray bezel. The counters for the I and II are the same. Both the I and II have identification decals as seen below. It's hard to tell from the pic, but the GCII decal has a chrome appearance. I offer both reproductions in high quality vinyl. The original GCI decals were water transfer.

The decals on the aprons of the table you posted do not appear to be original Brunswick decals.

Gold Crown I Decal
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Gold Crown II Decal
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Garczar, measuring tape says 4.5 inches at corner pockets. You think then they were narrowed a half inch from original 5?

Rexus31, I don't see any decals like what you posted on the aprons (those are the long side pieces below the rails, right?). No decals like yours anywhere. I suspect there was a paint job somewhere along the way because I scraped some old paint off the ball box interior in the cleanup. Paint job around the ballbox didn't strike me as Brunswick quality, lol. Rest looks good quality and may be original.
By the "decals on the aprons of the table you posted" do you mean the giant letters spelling Brunswick? So that lettering may not be original?

Thanks for the responses. Seems like the consensus is that this is a GC1. I'm feeling lucky and like I should be buying lottery tickets.
 
celt said:
Garczar, pockets look to be original 4.5.

Which is OK. No thoughts about serious competition venues. That ship has sailed. This is for fun and challenge.
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4.5 inch pockets are fine man. I have 4.25 and thats about as tight as I want to go. I think 4 inch pockets are for pro‘s or people that are sadomasochist‘s lol
 
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Here is a pic of 4.5 inch pockets. I agree with Garczar, looks to be original specs on that GC I. Pockets are measured out at the points. Nice table Celt!


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Rexus31, I don't see any decals like what you posted on the aprons (those are the long side pieces below the rails, right?). No decals like yours anywhere. I suspect there was a paint job somewhere along the way because I scraped some old paint off the ball box interior in the cleanup. Paint job around the ballbox didn't strike me as Brunswick quality, lol. Rest looks good quality and may be original.
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The decals I posted were placed on the stretcher between the legs and measures 4.5" x 1.5".
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By the "decals on the aprons of the table you posted" do you mean the giant letters spelling Brunswick? So that lettering may not be original?
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Yes. The font is not correct. Someone attempted to copy the graphic. These first appeared on the Gold Crown III. Gold Crown I's didn't have graphics on the aprons.
 
celt said:
Garczar, measuring tape says 4.5 inches at corner pockets. You think then they were narrowed a half inch from original 5?

Rexus31, I don't see any decals like what you posted on the aprons (those are the long side pieces below the rails, right?). No decals like yours anywhere. I suspect there was a paint job somewhere along the way because I scraped some old paint off the ball box interior in the cleanup. Paint job around the ballbox didn't strike me as Brunswick quality, lol. Rest looks good quality and may be original.
By the "decals on the aprons of the table you posted" do you mean the giant letters spelling Brunswick? So that lettering may not be original?

Thanks for the responses. Seems like the consensus is that this is a GC1. I'm feeling lucky and like I should be buying lottery tickets.
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measure from point to point. those are bigger than 4.5. probably factory stock size. lawnboy77's pic is 4.5"
 
celt said:
Garczar, measuring tape says 4.5 inches at corner pockets. You think then they were narrowed a half inch from original 5?

Rexus31, I don't see any decals like what you posted on the aprons (those are the long side pieces below the rails, right?). No decals like yours anywhere. I suspect there was a paint job somewhere along the way because I scraped some old paint off the ball box interior in the cleanup. Paint job around the ballbox didn't strike me as Brunswick quality, lol. Rest looks good quality and may be original.
By the "decals on the aprons of the table you posted" do you mean the giant letters spelling Brunswick? So that lettering may not be original?

Thanks for the responses. Seems like the consensus is that this is a GC1. I'm feeling lucky and like I should be buying lottery tickets.
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garczar said:
measure from point to point. those are bigger than 4.5. probably factory stock size. lawnboy77's pic is 4.5"
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Yes. Looks like 5” just like intended.

Don’t do a thing to it except have fun with it. That is awesome to find something like that out of the blue and so close and a great price.

The room that it’s in looks pretty cool with the stone wall. You should take a bigger photo.

Someone is a lefty too. 👍🏻👍🏻
 
celt said:
This is to thank all the folks who posted info on identifying GC1 vs GC2 vs frankenstein tables. I digested every word. Repeatedly. Now I am checking my analysis for this newly acquired table: The feet and ball storage metal being silvered color vs bronze and absence of decal on the stretcher rules out a GC2. The larger scoring indicates GC1. The metal badging plate and adjustable feet means a later GC1. Have I got all that right?

Background: We relocated to NC by way of FL and left behind in Wisconsin a GC III and a 1920s 10ft Brunswick billiard table. Husband has missed them. Our current cabin in NC mountains has no room for a table, but the overstuffed outbuilding had promise after cleanout. I searched for a GC with no luck. Then amazingly my neighbor was buying live edge slabs from a guy who asked him if he knew anybody who wanted a pool table. He said no but his wife interrupted and said yes as she knew I was looking. They phoned me but had no info about the table - nada, not even the maker - just that seller said it was a great table "worth thousands" and he would let it go for $500. I asked for pictures and about had a heart attack. A GC1 right here in town!

Turns out the table was known to our western NC mechanic who vouched for it. The move, install, cleanup and refelt went perfectly. (Shout out to Danny at WNC Billiards)

Condition is not perfect, but it is pretty darn nice. And more important it plays beautifully. And even if I now learn about flaws or issues, I think I am still good with the table.

So, best birthday present ever?
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You hit the jackpot my friend!!
Beautiful table that brings back so many memories I had to brush 'em away from my face!!! My Compliments to the giver as well.👍🏻
 
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