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Cue stick stroke with a spin.
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I need a high speed shot or at least another angle. I have to believe. It wasn’t an out of body experience lol b
DeeDeeCues
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So, even if this were to work, a person has a lot more strength curling their wrist in than extending it. My question is: what do you do when you need left spin? Do you shoot with your left hand for those?
About 6 mos. ago I replied to a thread espousing this very same technique as a means of helping the guy reduce his tendency to squeeze the cue too hard when stroking the cb. Never heard back from him. Oh, this thread doesn't belong on your thread. I should have replied to op.
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Yeah I think it is worthless to try. Wrists just aren’t made that way. For me it’s not a shot but just physically possible. But without high speed photography and another camera. It is still speculation as to what is on the video.
The op has no life. He reads everything lol
boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
You darted the tip to the right as you struck it. Also you stroked differently, more follow through on the second one, not the same stroke as a stop shot.
When you drive the cue through the ball like on the second shot you can make the CB do wild things. It's especially useful for soft kick shots where the CB has to really take the spin off the rail.
Seriously, I'm not trying to rain on your parade, but what you think is happening, isn't happening. This is a game where 1mm or less can change the trajectory of the ball. When I'm stroking good I can keep the tip within a dime of center and propel the cb wherever I want with whatever spin I want.
It's basically a stop shot vs an extended follow through to juice the CB.
Also driving the CB into the cloth like on the second shot is kind of like a masse. It's quite useful for many shots but it's a bit wild to control. Basically the CB is being driven into and off the slate, friction is spinning while the CB is airborn. Once it hits the OB, the spin catches all at once.
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I’ll buy that.
Picking a nit:
Followthrough doesn’t have any direct effect on CB speed or spin - it only helps ensure your stroke stays straight up to and including contact. Tip/ball contact time is only about 1/1000 of a second, so there’s no time for anything to affect the CB except speed and direction of movement at the moment of contact. Nothing changes during that extremely brief contact.
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boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
I get what you mean, but I wasn't trying to imply that. Thanks for clarifying.
Yes absolutely, but what happens when the tip comes s rotating at impact? A stop shot. The cue is skidding to the object ball. My contention is it skidding AND rotating clockwise after the center spin strike. Only a high speed camera can get the true effect of such a stroke. What I did, albeit not scientific or exact enough, showed a distinct difference. The ball after contact rolled at a 90 degree angle away from the contact point it didn’t follow or draw.
Picking a nit:
To a point, yeah you’re kinda right. BUT, generally when your follow through is poor, it’s a result of deceleration of your stroke resulting in “hitting” the ball instead of “stroking” it. That deceleration is affecting speed at contact which affects everything else downstream of that. It’s a hair splitting thing.
I didn't think you did (sorry if it sounded that way) - just clarifying for whoever's interested.I get what you mean, but I wasn't trying to imply that. Thanks for clarifying.
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chgo
Yes, speed accuracy is also improved with followthrough - another indirect effect. Thanks for pointing it out.
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chgo
Why is everyone looking at the wrist spin? A high speed video will show the cue ball spinning on a dual axis. This is one of the finer points that only a few have experienced and can duplicate,. Get you high speed cameras out. Do not be so skeptical!!!!!
All CBs spin on a dual (actually triple) axis if you hit them with high or low side.
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i really hope you're joking. spinning the shaft does NADA to the cueball. btw, the ball doesn't rotate along multiple axis. ex, i you put low right on the cb it will turn on one axis, a tilted axis due to the strike on the cb. to do otherwise would pretty much toss physics out the window. the ONLY reason the op's cb moved sideways is due to a slight off center hit. nothing more. same thing applies to curving golf shots, the ball curves because the axis of the ball gets tilted by the way the club contacts the ball. the ball only turns on one axis.
sorry but that's not what happens. for the last time: turning the shaft does not impart spin to the cb. this so called 'center spin strike' does not happen. the reason that ball moved on shot #2 was due to a slightly off-center hit, not the shaft rotating/spinning.
I will agree after I see high speed footage. Or better yet. You have a stick, you try it. What’s the worst that can happen?? A little wasted chalk?