My bet is IF they changed resins, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
Any difference in the latest Centennial balls besides packaging?
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This is consistent what I was told by a Simonis rep. Centennials were made under contract for Brunswick by Saluc using the same resin as SAP (Super Aramith Pro) which was their premium ball at the time. Duramith technology is hardening, it's not a different resin recipe that came out after the contract, and could require re-negotiation.
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Purpose of Duramith technology is to produce a harder durable finish. Think of it in the same manner as heat treatment for 440 knife steel. You can buy a knife with 440, and a buck 110 will retain the edge longer because of Paul Bos heat treatment.
The Simonis rep called Duramith 4th generation. Super Aramith Pros and Saluc produced Centennials are 3rd generation. Hyatt Centennials and the Albany Ball Company resin formula used in China is considered 2nd generation.
Whatever "generation" Dynasphere are made of is WAY better than Super Aramith Pro 3rd gen. Its not even close.
Here is the complete email (I only had their response previously, this one has my initial question). Maybe it's the way I phrased it? Maybe the "resin" is the same, but the curing process or some other downstream process is different? IDK, I'm just guessing. Regardless, the last portion of their response is crystal clear that only the Aramith Tournament series is made with Duramith.
Wasn’t it also to reduce heat so you would get less burn marks on the cloth?
That's a side benefit. Primary is longer service life. Ideal for poolhalls, and maybe bars (lack of cleaning and horrid conditions).
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WTH is YOUR problem with facts pal. I can handle facts all day long. This question/issue gets asked about every 6mos and its the same answer. The Centennials, being made for Brunswick, have been SAP since SAP came out. Unless B'wick signs a new contract allowing the use of the Duramith mix this is how its going to remain. This scenario is plausible since LegacySports bought B'wick. With way more $$ to toss around they may want to update their ball contract.
What is up with these superlatives? "WAY" better???? "Not even close"?? Care to quantify these? I've played with Dyna's, Cennt's, SAP's and Tournaments and i've yet to feel like saying "These are WAY better. Its not even close". I'm dead serious here, in what way(s) are they WAY better? I have heard that some stay cleaner longer but that wouldn't qualify for the 'WAY' better description, would it?
Define "Way more Dollars" for us please. How would you even know that?
They say Parmesan and Proscuitto were accidentally discovered when someone left behind their yogurt and ham lunch in a cave. Forgot about it and came back months later thinking it's spoiled, but behold a miracle.
*tin foil hat conspiracy theory*
Perhaps Duramith Technology was discovered in the same way? I always wondered what happened to those unsold IPT sets? I regret not pulling the trigger during the firesale. Maybe sat open on a skid, exposed, accidentally cured from cycles of harsh warehouse sunlight, and forgotten while trying to figure how to write them off or offload.
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I played a few weeks straight with the Dynasphere Tungsten set, without running through my ball polisher. It was still like new. The SAP set even if I cleaned it every use did not look as good. This was a few years back using Master's chalk.
Whatever coating/process Dynasphere uses, it resists smudges/dirt/etc a lot better than what is on the SAP set.
I asked you a simple question, "when" did you ask Aramith the question. You still didn't answer. I went and got the info on my own, and included the date I asked. Now when someone reads my response, they will know the information is current. That's all you had to do, and I would have had no issues.
Hate to bring up this old thread, but there seems to be a few ball experts here. I'm looking at a set of Centennials from 2008. Still new in the box.
Are these the 3rd generation, same as Super Aramith Pro balls. Worth picking up or should I hold out for a Duramith set?
Thanks,
Eric
Are these the 3rd generation, same as Super Aramith Pro balls. Worth picking up or should I hold out for a Duramith set?
Thanks,
Eric
I was thinking if it would be better to hold out for a set or Aramith Duramith. I'm not to concerned about the looks, just wondering about the construction of a set of Centennials from 2008.
Benelli
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They have not announced a Duramith set of Centennials, and there is no reason to make one.
If consumers want Duramith, they can buy one of the three different variations of Tournament sets, or wait for the non-collector's version of the 100th Anniversary set, which has even better resin than Tournaments.
The 2008 Centennials are an outstanding ball, and if you can get them for under $200 you would be crazy not to buy them.
This set is $260 and it's part of the Brunswick set with cues, triangles and a few other odds and ends. Everything is brand new. All I want are the balls. So, not sure if it's really a deal or not.
Benelli
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If there are unplayed with, try to talk them down to $230 and buy the whole lot.
Then post all the other crap for sale on FB marketplace for $100
Done deal.
$260 was down from $300.
I've got a few ideas now.
Thanks for the help.
Guy has an almost new pool cue lathe (The $4500 version you can make a pool cue with). He's going to be selling that also if anyone is interested. He said $1500.